Olympus69
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### Military Info Help Needed

I don't know much about modern military a/c and need help on finding the full serial number and construction number for this Mississippa ANG C-17, I am planning to upload this photo.

Bruce
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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

03-3115

The number on the tail is "33115" and the air force omits the first digit, so that means it is _3-3115 and you simply plug that into an online database using "0" in the blank space, and it comes up as a c-17A of the 183rd AS. MS ANG, construction # P115.

database:
http://scramble.nl/milbase.htm

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WhyWhyZed
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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

John, you might want to sharpen it a bit more before uploading. Right now, it looks soft.

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

 Quoting WhyWhyZed (Reply 2):Right now, it looks soft.

I think so too.
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Olympus69
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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

 Quoting Bruce (Reply 1):The number on the tail is "33115" and the air force omits the first digit, so that means it is _3-3115 and you simply plug that into an online database using "0" in the blank space, and it comes up as a c-17A of the 183rd AS. MS ANG, construction # P115.

Thanks for that link. I have one question - How do you know what the first digit is? I suppose in this case it has to be a zero, but for many a/c types - a B-52 for example it could be several different digits.

 Quoting WhyWhyZed (Reply 2):John, you might want to sharpen it a bit more before uploading. Right now, it looks soft.

I will, but I'm always afraid of over-sharpening. My nearly 80 year old eyes just aren't good enough to detect slight over or under sharpness factors.

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

 Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 4): I will, but I'm always afraid of over-sharpening. My nearly 80 year old eyes just aren't good enough to detect slight over or under sharpness factors.

Your continuous effort and enthusiasm definitely does deserve some credit, however. Most people 1/3 your age don't even have the patientce for this site! You have alot to show and be proud of, keep it up!

[Edited 2006-09-05 02:28:13]

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

 Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 4):How do you know what the first digit is?

Either trial and error or use this very nice search tool for Joe Baugher's database:
http://cgibin.rcn.com/jeremy.k/cgi-b...afSearch.pl?target=3-3115&content=

Enter '3-3115' and C-17', works fine.

Peter

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 Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 6):Either trial and error or use this very nice search tool for Joe Baugher's database: http://cgibin.rcn.com/jeremy.k/cgi-b...tent=

Thanks. I guess trial and error isn't too time consuming when you have a maximum of 10 choices.

 Quoting WhyWhyZed (Reply 5):Your continuous effort and enthusiasm definitely does deserve some credit, however. Most people 1/3 your age don't even have the Patience for this site! You have alot to show and be proud of, keep it up!

Thanks for those kind words, Jason. Last year I had over 200 photos accepted, but this year has been somewhat of a shock. I've had about 10 accepted - 2 of them being JT's B707, thanks to your efforts in alerting us of its arrival at YHM. Part of the reason for the drop is that I am uploading far fewer photos this year.

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

John Thats a cracking shot mate.
I would be inclined to center it a bit lower in the frame also.
Keep the good work up .
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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

The key to figuring out the first digit in _3-3115 is that the two numbers ahead of the dash give what fiscal year the funding for the aircraft was approved by Congress. The C-17 has been in production since 1990. Hence, the first digit will either be 9 or 0. A quick check in Scramble or Baugher shows that 93-3115 doesn't exist, and 03-3115 is a C-17.

USAF serials are easy - US Army serials are a mess.

I'm glad to hear that someone quite a bit older than me is at this (submitting pictures). I'm in my late 40s and the progressive lens in my glasses make life difficult when I am editing pictures.

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

 Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 8):John Thats a cracking shot mate. I would be inclined to center it a bit lower in the frame also.

Thanks. Unfortunately I was shooting in a very constricted area and I couldn't move the frame of the picture without unwanted bits and pieces of vehicles intruding. The plane was on the de-icing pads and there was a lot of machinery parked along the fence I was shooting through.

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### RE: Military Info Help Needed

Yeah, military a/c are the absolute hardest to get reg#s from. The worst is the T-1 Jayhawk, they're in 3 inch high digits on the tail. Unless its very close you will never see it. Next worst is the Army, I spent hours searching for a reg# on a blackhawk.

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