dazbo5
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Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:53 pm

I've just returned from Icmeler in Turkey. With the recent problems with bombs in the area, I managed to grab this shot of a Turkish Coastguard helicopter doing a serach of the beach at sunset. I only had my 24-85mm lens with me so I was quite lucky it flew over the top of me. Unfortunately, it came in to view at the last second as I'd been shooting a few frames on the beach during the day, I never realised I still had -2/3 of exposure compensation dialed in until after I took this shot, it was too late then  banghead  I've done an edit and tried to brighten things up best I can. This is the result:

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Do you think this would be ok or is it still too dark? I think it is personally but I can't get it much lighter without blowing the sky out. It's quite dark underneath. There aren't any shots of this particular helicopter in the database so I though it would be a worthy addition.

From the info I've found, the helicopter is an Agusta-Bell 412 EP. If I do upload this or another edit, could anyone help on the details please. Would these details be correct:

Airline: Turkish Coast Gaurd
Aircraft Type: Agusta 412 EP
Registration: TCSG-509

Plus boxes ticked: Helcoopter

Thanks for your help,

Darren
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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:25 pm

Darren.

IMO it's too dark. I can't see if there's enough detail to work from there, but IMO it's not salvagable - at least with my PS methods.

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:25 pm

Hi there Darren .
I'm doing night shift at work tonight and using this old CRT i cant comment on quality but i see some dead space in front of the helicopter maybe a tighter crop would be better .
Also I'm thinking it might be Government owned so dont forget to tick that .
But i would get a second opinion on that any takers.
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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:58 pm

Looks a bit dark, and the belly appears grainy as well. And although I like the way it is framed, they may get you for the dead space in front as Jumbo said, but I would worry about the quality first.

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:23 pm

Darren,

If you're still uploading it I believe the info should be like this:

Airline: Turkey - Coast Guard
Aircraft Type: Agusta 412EP (no space)
Registration: TCSG-509
Boxes ticked: Helicopter and Military (since it has roundels and a military reg)

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:07 am

Thanks guys, I might try and rework it and see if I can improve things. That'll teach me to not check the camera settings first but like I say, it was a last second grab of the camera as it took me by surprise. Considering a photo of this helicopter type in this livery is not on the DB, it might be worth the risk. I wish I'd taken my 50-500 with me as well, I also had this going on for an hour while sat on the beach on afternoon:







they're Kamov-32's I beleive. There were 2 of them flying around fighting a fire in the hills around Turunc. It made pleasant viewing from my sunbed!



That'll teach me to go on hols without being fully equiped!

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:35 am

Don't know what screeners would say, but I personally would give the Bell a try. The rarity factor is difficult to assess. The chances of good photographs of this helicopter forthcoming in the next couple of years are pretty slim, so personally I think it deserves to be in the database more than some of the old airliner shots.

Are the Kamov photos uncropped? I'd almost think you might give the second one a try as well, cropped to vertical. The bucket is a nice excuse for a motive Smile
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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:54 am

Thanks Ptjong, I've lightened it up just a tad and uploaded it. My fingers, toes and lungs are crossed!

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 6):
Are the Kamov photos uncropped?

They are quite cropped since I only had my 24-85mm with me  banghead  although the third one is pretty much full frame. The one you mention is quite cropped. I've been toying with the idea of uploading that one, cropped more but I thought it might get distance and I don't think it has the quality  Sad From now on, the 50-500 comes with me if it can!

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 4):
Aircraft Type: Agusta 412EP

Almost right!
The generic type is:
Agusta AB-412 Grifone
and the type is:
Agusta AB-412EP Grifone

We use the AB- prefix to show that they are built under license to Bell.
 
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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:28 am

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 7):
I don't think it has the quality

Too bad.

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 7):
From now on, the 50-500 comes with me if it can!

Well, lugging THAT to the beach... I make a point of carrying a relatively small and light 70-300 in my bag though... and try to have it attached to the camera by default. Uniformed folk seem to like that lens better, too.

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RE: Turkish Coastguard Helicopter - Good Enough?

Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:26 pm

Thanks for all your comments and help, the photo was luckily accepted  Smile I suspect it was accepted based on its rarity rather than quality, but accepted non-the-less. I've leant my lesson, always make sure the camera is set up right before you press the shutter release!


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Unfurtunately, my photo of the Kamov was rejected after passing through first screening with a personal message asking for it to be uploaded in portrait rather than landscape (The 2nd photo posted above). I'll get that done as soon as I can since the hard drive where I store my photo's on has failed. I'm just hoping the manufacturer is right in its diagnosis of failing power supply and the new power pack they are sending me solves the problem, or there won't be any Kamov photo are 1000's of others in my archive!

Thanks again,

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