aero145
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Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:52 am

Hey guys.

I was just practising some panning... Well, in my opinion panning...

Here is the result...

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2171/tffto988319092006qh0.jpg

Any comments? What should be fixed etc.

Regards and thanks,
Aero145
 
linco22
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:23 am

David,

Nice try, its pretty sharp overall but two things jump out to me. The top of the wing is overexposed and it looks like you need some CCW rotation

Regards
Colin  Smile
 
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 1):
The top of the wing is overexposed and it looks like you need some CCW rotation

I rotated using the verticals in the background...

Any hints how to fix the wing?
 
Lanas
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:02 am

David
Pretty sharp one, congratulations!
For the overexposed area try using the magic wand with Photoshop and then removing some brightness. That might help, for starters.
I see the pic´s level, specially by looking at the houses in the background.
Good job, keep them coming.  Smile

Cheers!
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timdegroot
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:18 am

Try this on an A340-600 at 600mm at 1/10th Wink

Seriously though, good quality shot, perhaps just oversharpened by a tiny ammount.

Tim
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aero145
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:27 am

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 4):
Try this on an A340-600 at 600mm at 1/10th

Tim, could you please stop this?

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 4):
Seriously though, good quality shot, perhaps just oversharpened by a tiny ammount.

By a tiny amount you say? Thank you very much!

[Edited 2006-09-19 20:30:11]
 
aero145
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting Lanas (Reply 3):
Pretty sharp one, congratulations!
For the overexposed area try using the magic wand with Photoshop and then removing some brightness. That might help, for starters.
I see the pic´s level, specially by looking at the houses in the background.
Good job, keep them coming.

Thanks for the input. I'll try this magic wand tool on the overexposed areas. I however have never tried to use the wand for anything else than taking the sky off sharpening area.
 
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:19 am

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 4):
Try this on an A340-600 at 600mm at 1/10th

 rotfl  LMAO
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eadster
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:43 am

Quoting Timdegroot (Reply 4):
Try this on an A340-600 at 600mm at 1/10th

With or without IS?

Great going on the shot. Its salvagable with a different edit. When re-editing, watch the jaggies around the window on the door.

Good work!
 
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:51 am

I agree with Tim i see it also as slightly over sharpened but a dang fine effort well done David.
Not sure i would use the magic wand as suggested to fix the upper wing might dwell into the realms of manipulation if you do that.
Try just using the shadow highlight tool just a slight amount not too much see what you can come up with.
Cheers
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:16 am

Very nice shot. Well done. I wouldn't bother too much about the overexposed top of the wing. At least it doesn't bother me at all Big grin

It might also need a little CCW rotation but it's hard to find a reliable vertical to use in this picture.

Maybe a tip: When taking pictures of white bodies in the sun, it is (imho) better to underexpose a little (0.7 stops or so). It will give you more room to correct in PS. When taking pictures against a white background (like a bright sky or snow) I like to overexpose to avoid the all grey look.

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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:21 am

Congratulations on the difficult panning shot!

Maybe it's only me, but I find the aircraft a little bit low in the frame. If it would be a bit higher in the frame this photo would deserve an A+

Other then that, I still think it will get into the DB.

Steven.
 
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:54 am

Quoting UA935 (Reply 7):
LMAO

Don't laugh so much! Javier Guerrero has a shot taken on 600mm f/4 IS 1/10th in the Q.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 8):
With or without IS?

With Image Stabilizer.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 8):
Great going on the shot. Its salvagable with a different edit. When re-editing, watch the jaggies around the window on the door.

Jaggies around the window, gotcha!

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 9):
I agree with Tim i see it also as slightly over sharpened but a dang fine effort well done David.

Thank you.

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 9):
Not sure i would use the magic wand as suggested to fix the upper wing might dwell into the realms of manipulation if you do that.

I hope it won't fall into manipulation, I'll edit tomorrow.

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 9):
Try just using the shadow highlight tool just a slight amount not too much see what you can come up with.

I'll do that.

Quoting Diezel (Reply 10):
Very nice shot. Well done.

Thanks!  embarrased 

Quoting Diezel (Reply 10):
It might also need a little CCW rotation but it's hard to find a reliable vertical to use in this picture.

I agree. But I didn't find good verticals, maybe other screeners could help?

Quoting Diezel (Reply 10):
Maybe a tip: When taking pictures of white bodies in the sun, it is (imho) better to underexpose a little (0.7 stops or so). It will give you more room to correct in PS. When taking pictures against a white background (like a bright sky or snow) I like to overexpose to avoid the all grey look.

Good instructions. Thanks!

Quoting Sfilipowicz (Reply 11):
Congratulations on the difficult panning shot!

Thank you. But, the effort taking the shot was amazingly little: I heard an aircraft from my room, walked outside, and shot. Then I went inside and edited...  Smile

Quoting Sfilipowicz (Reply 11):
Maybe it's only me, but I find the aircraft a little bit low in the frame. If it would be a bit higher in the frame this photo would deserve an A+

A+, wow!  Smile I'll keep bad_centre in mind when editing again.

Quoting Sfilipowicz (Reply 11):
Other then that, I still think it will get into the DB.

Well, I doubt it myself, as this edit is just a quick one. I'll put some effort tomorrow.

Thanks very much everybody for your nice help!

Best regards,
David Alfred Big grin
 
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:33 am

Quoting Sfilipowicz (Reply 11):
I find the aircraft a little bit low in the frame

I agree, I didn´t notice that before.

Cheers!
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jhribar
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RE: Any Luck?

Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:35 pm

I'd put the aircraft a little higher in the frame.
Furthermore I agree with Tim regarding the sharpening.
Anyway...even now it is already a nice shot!

rgds,

Jeroen
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RE: Any Luck?

Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:55 am

Quoting Jhribar (Reply 14):
I'd put the aircraft a little higher in the frame.
Furthermore I agree with Tim regarding the sharpening.
Anyway...even now it is already a nice shot!

Gotcha, mate.
Thank you!

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RE: Any Luck?

Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:41 am

Alright. I've edited the photo again, with instructions from people in this thread.

Big version: Width: 1000 Height: 667 File size: 466kb


This is how I edited the photo:

I started with opening Adobe Photoshop CS2 Raw Converter. There I fixed the exposure a little and contrast. Next, I opened the Raw file in Photoshop, and leveled, cropped, and resized to 1050x765 pixels. After that, I used Magic Wand to deselect areas I didn't want to be sharpened. Then I sharpened the areas I wanted to sharpen, with Smart Sharpen. Curves was next on the list, and contrast. There next, I cropped the photo using Canvas size, to 1000x667 pixels. In the end, I put the bits from 16 to 8, and converted the profile to sRGB. The last thing I did, was to save as TF-FTO-9883-19092006-newedit.JPG.

IMO, the previous edit is better...

Maybe some other people would want to try to edit the photo themselfs?

Best regards,
David  sun 

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