glidepath
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Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:31 am

I recently managed to get my first picture into the database after a row of rejections, so I learned how hard it is meet a.net standards.
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Anyway, I just spend two nice weeks on the Greek island of Mikonos, where the approach to that airport should yield some spectacular spotting opportunities. However I did not check that out as we spend most of our time on the beach and didn't rent a car.
So I only managed to get some shots during arrival and departure, which I'd like some comment on:

1. D-AHFG

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I guess this will probably get a "motive" rejection, even though I quite like the closeup of the wing with the oblique late afternoon light. This angle resulted from the shuttlebus being parked a bit awkwardly right under the wingtip, which also explains why I couldn't get the tail or winglet into the frame...
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2. D-AHFL

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Are those gangways enough to bring on a "clutter" rejection? I've had a different shot rejected about a year ago for what I believe was more or less that reason. From what I find in the database, this seems to be the case, even though I find it hard to understand. After all, airport equipment is an integral and vital part of an airliners "natural" environment. For this reason many of the shots in the a.net database of taxiing or parked airliners often look dead and uninteresting to me.
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As to the framing of the second shot: It has been cropped out of this larger image, which I'm sure would get rejected for the light pole in the foreground.

Should I leave those shots in the queue? And if not, are they in any way salvageable? Are there other issues that I've missed?

Thanks for your help.  Smile
Mike.
 
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:33 am

Motiv for both and centered for the second. Nice shots but not Airliners.net material.

I would pull them both so your rejection rate does not suffer.
 
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:14 am

Congratulations on your first acceptance.

As Royal says, neither of these photos has a chance here I am afraid. The screeners will not even get as far as closely examining the quality, because the crop of the first is rather doomed, with that wingtip and - despite debates going on about the centre rejection - all screeners will reject this, as the subject is placed so far off centre, at the base of the crop.

Nice photos to have though for yourself. I was brave enough to take my camera out briefly when I went to Greece last month, but I am always a bit nervous about how the Greeks might interpret such behaviour  wink .

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glidepath
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:34 am

Thanks for the input so far. As for the first shot, that's pretty much what I guessed, so I'll pull it from the queue. If anyone wants to have a look, I've parked it here:

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As for the second one, would this version fix the centered issue?

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I only choose the high frame to get rid of the slightly cluttered foreground. Any other reasons for a rejection?

Photography in Greece: It seems to depend which airport you are at. If it's used by the military you might get in trouble, but otherwise it seems to be OK. On Mikonos nobody seemed to mind at all. On Santorin, Photogaphy is strictly forbidden.

Mike.
 
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:02 am

I'm affraid the second will get an instant motive rejection due to the stairs on the front and back of the aircraft, clutter blocking the view of the aircraft is a no no, sorry  Smile also the foreground clutter is distracting too.
 
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:05 am

Hi Mike,

I also think the stairs in that photo do matter.

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Lanas
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:50 pm

Quoting Globalpics (Reply 4):
the second will get an instant motive rejection due to the stairs on the front and back of the aircraft

Mike

Take into account that all stairs that aren´t part of the aircraft will cause a motiv rejection. If your pic showed the staircase provided by the aircraft, then there would be no problem.

It has to be something like this:

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Photo © Richard Barsby - Aviation Photography CYEG
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Photo © Tobias Rose - AirTeamImages



Cheers!
Lanas.-
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glidepath
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RE: Pre-screening Advice Requested

Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:36 pm

OK, thanks. I just pulled the second pic from the queue.  Sad

Mike.

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