xenon
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Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:05 am

Hi,

Uploaded an Air China picture but after several hours(!) working on it, it looks that I can't have it "correct"...

The light was damm difficult!

Anyone some advice?

Thx,

Daniel

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_4356-B2496-1.jpg
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Fly747
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:12 am

It needs more contrast, looks a bit flat.

Ivan
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:20 am

Looks like the shot was heavily backlit. Have you considered using curves?
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:25 am

Yes, some more contrast, and that reflection is a little distracting. I guess it will depend on what screener you get that will determine whether it is too distracting.

Harry
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xenon
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:26 am

DLX,

Indeed, most of the lightsource is in the 'back' of the picture; thats why the
back is so strong lighted.
I guess that you can't have a correct exposure with such picture!?

It was a 20s exposure. (sportmetered in the B767 fuselage)

Didn't play with the curves.

cheers,

Daniel

Thx Fly747.
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:29 am

I'd try curves and expand those highlights a bit, while also expanding the shadows. Don't know how much can be done with it though. Is it a RAW file?
 
xenon
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:33 am

DLX,

Its a RAW file.

Will trying with the curves meanwhile.

Thx,

Daniel
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:01 am

Hi all,

Ive reworked the picture:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_4356-B2496-anet.jpg

Also a tighter crop and better contrast.

What do you think?

Cheers,

Daniel
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:07 am

Definitely better. I'd expand those highlighs even more. But I just noticed you have a grass problem. Personally, I like the grass, but I know that other shots have been rejected for motive when they had their wheels partially obscured by grass.
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:09 am

Any chance you could post the original?
 
xenon
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:22 am

Ian,

I've sent you a private mail.

Daniel
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:51 am

The second try is much better than the first one Daniel.
Although it's a difficult shot it's definitely worth trying to edit it  Wink You don't get the Air China every day in Brussels :p I saw it today but couldn't take a picture unfortunately.....

Take Care
Chris
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:44 am

This is a very impressive attempt Daniel - well done.

If you feel I may be able to help at all, just send me an email. I can imagine how much you want to get this one accepted - you have put a lot of effort in, both at the time you took the photo and in the edit, by the sound of it.

Cheers.

Paul
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:31 am

I'm sure you could help him Paul. It's shot in RAW but unfortunately I have never done RAW in my life! (yes, I know I should but don't know where to start). I'm sure someone on here can help. I really like it.  Smile
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:54 am

Hi Daniel,

I like the motive, if you send me the raw file I'd love to give it a try.

Take care,

Florian
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:58 pm

Hi all,

Thx for the offering help! Much appreciated!!

Florian, Paul,

Ive sent you both an email.

Chris,

Indeed its a rare sight in BRU!

Cheers and see you sometimes.

Daniel
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:31 am

Hi Daniel.

I have emailed you earlier on, but just in case you didn't receive it I will post here.

Here is a first attempt at your photo.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 622kb
Alternate version of Daniel's Photo

As you will see, I have made quite a change to the 'temperature' of the shot. This is more in keeping with my personal preference - to me it looks more 'realistic' and less 'cold' than your linked version above, which looked rather blue overall to me. However, if that was the 'feel' that you were trying to achieve, just let me know.

I still think there are some other issues with the edit - the overexposed areas, sharpness in the nose area and flare particularly. But I wanted to check out your - and others - views regarding the overall feel of the shot in this edit before proceeding further.

Cheers.

Paul
 
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RE: Difficult Light... Do It Works?

Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Xenon (Thread starter):
after several hours(!) working on it, it looks that I can't have it "correct"...

I seriously hate that feeling. Your second attempt looks better, though I think the photo is honestly more work than it's worth. Some areas in the photo are really underexposed while some areas (the background) are overexposed.

You could fix them but it'd take awhile.

I really like the shot though, it's a pretty interesting angle  Smile

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