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Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:34 am

http://picasaweb.google.com/timsampl...otograhy/photo#4989942728447361042 need to click on the zoom in button at the top right and let it load to see it all.

I really thought this one had a good chance, it made it through the normal screening and then bit the dust from the head screeners. I'm beginning to think they don't like me  Wink

The rejection reasons were

"The image quality of these photo(s) does not meet the very high standards
of Airliners.Net. This does not mean that it is a bad photo, but it does
mean that we think it has certain (possibly minor) flaws.
I may be possible to correct this problem, but this depends on many
factors."

and

"These photo(s) show a motive that is not accepted by Airliners.net. This
problem may be due to a very wide range of reasons, from photos that
include unwanted window reflections to photos showing other subjects than
aircraft. Also, certain kinds of so-called "creative" photos may be more
prone to this problem."

So I am wondering if this one is fixable or should I just keep it for my personal collection. I looked through the database and found a motive that was very similar (I even have a bit more traffic in mine) so I am thinking motiv is OK as this photo is very good.

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Image quality may be an issue as I am using a laptop for photoediting but after looking at it on another screen the quality looks fine to me. I set the WB so that is fine. So anyway, any ideas on what else to do to this photo?
 
eadster
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:52 am

Ok for one, the shot you refered to was added in 2003.

To my understanding anet do not accept these shots anymore. I could be wrong but I did read this somewhere.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:03 am

Shame, beautiful pic! Why doesn't the site like these shots?
Hey that guy with the private jet can bail us out! Why? HE CAN AFFORD IT!
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:27 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 1):
Ok for one, the shot you refered to was added in 2003.

Not trying to compare my shot and say one got in while another didn't. In my opinion (means nothing) they are very similar and I really like Rafal's shot. I don't care when he took it, it is a good shot and I hope if he uploaded another today that is similar to that one, it would be accepted.

I really hope those long exposure shots aren't banned, I think they are some of the nicest types of shots out there if done right. I do think the standards should be higher than normal for night photos though but not so much where they are no where to be found.

Did I miss the memo somewhere saying these types of shots are no-gos now?
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:47 am

I do hear what you mean. The only one I ever got accepted is one of my most popular shots. I really like them and would like to see more of them.


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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 4):
I really like them and would like to see more of them.

Well, I have one of these types in the queue that I feel really tops anything I have done lately so hopefully I will get to show it off in a few days if it gets accepted.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:36 am

I believe that photo was rejected by Johan.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 6):
I believe that photo was rejected by Johan.

Ohh, I was under the impression that he didn't do screening anymore. I thougt there were headscreeners that did those now?

So does that mean it is a lost cause for this photo as far as a.net goes? Or should I re-edit it and try again?
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:53 am

Johan still maintains a queue. Photos of questionable motiv are sent to him.

The Headscreeners screen the appeals queue.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 6):
I believe that photo was rejected by Johan.

So can you confirm Royal, that these shots are out nowadays?
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:14 am

well, I don't know that it has ever been handed down like that, but I double checked, J did reject that photo, so I would say they will have a tough time being accepted in the future.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:35 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 10):
well, I don't know that it has ever been handed down like that, but I double checked, J did reject that photo, so I would say they will have a tough time being accepted in the future.

Thanks for the straight answer on this. Much appreciated.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:24 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 4):
I do hear what you mean. The only one I ever got accepted is one of my most popular shots.

very nice picture Martin. I really like it! Hope to see more of those type of photos in the database.

I still have to focus on night photography but I need to buy a tripod first and learn about how to use the correct camera settings for night photography. I remember reading somewhere about ISO400 for night photography or am I completely wrong? Please correct as I'm not that familiar with night photography settings yet  Smile

Regards,

A388
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 12):
I remember reading somewhere about ISO400 for night photography or am I completely wrong?

I have been using ISO 200 and I think they seem to turn out fine. Then again my last one bit the dust, but my one from last year is coming up on 100,000 hits and I think it turned out very well.

So to the screeners/Johan can we start a campaign/thread requesting that night photos still be allowed?

I have another one coming up that I have high hopes for.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:20 pm

Just to be clear, there has been no "rule change" on night shots. In the case of your rejected shot there is no airplane per se, just some light streaks.

'Regular' night shots, here are a few examples, are still welcome


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Photo © Andrew Compolo




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Photo © Nathan Zalcman - AirTeamImages
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Photo © Quinn Savit

 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:37 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 14):
just some light streaks

These are the ones I like the best! But anyway - times change.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 14):



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 14):
In the case of your rejected shot there is no airplane per se, just some light streaks.

Oh it's there, you just have to look a bit closer  Smile

And now that I think about it there is technically one on the left side.

I totally see the arguement there, I just think these type of shots are a huge part of "aviation photography". This leads us into the debate again about if the site is just a database or a place for aviation photography.

Well, I will keep trying though, hopefully my next one makes it in.

Thanks guys!
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:14 pm

well, if you consider the airplane in your photo the same as the pictures I have linked to I think I am wasting my time trying to explain it to you.

Clearly there is a difference.
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:28 am

the key is to combine the 2.  Wink
Missed 4 chasing 1
 
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RE: Night Photography Rejection...

Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:17 pm

Quoting LOCsta (Reply 18):
the key is to combine the 2

Not to self plug, so don't click on the photo, but here is what LOCsta is talking about...


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Photo © Grant Feggi - t.dot photography
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Photo © Grant Feggi - t.dot photography



Hope that helps... have a subject or a motiv and be creative with the back ground!

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