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Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:02 am

Hi Everybody,

I would like to hear your opinions on these two shots taken at the Imperial War Museum in London. The P-51 Mustang is well documented in the DB, but there is only one more picture of the FW 190 (maybe enough to justify backlit?).





Btw, the FW 190 was a nightmare to level  crazy  ...
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RE: Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:21 am

Andres,

I don't care for the Mustang shot, the tail is sort of cut, the suspension cable running across the cockpit is rather prominent and the background is noisy.

I do like the Focke-Wulf, but I think you made a mistake with the leveling. I think it needs 2.2 degrees CCW rotation to make the center of the frame vertical, based on the surrounding poles.

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RE: Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:01 am

Hi Peter,

You must be kidding, that's exactly how much I rotated it CW in the first place  Silly  Big grin !!! I told you, for me this was a nightmare to level...
What I did was in the end to level it based on the V2 rocket to the right (in the original file more can be seen), and I just supposed that it must have been vertical, so rotated the image accordingly. Was I wrong???  scratchchin 

On the Mustang, I cannot do anything regarding the cables, and I cropped it with the wing clipped, since there were some people behind whose faces could be reckognized  Sad .
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RE: Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:03 pm

On the Fw 190, I'd level it so that the columns at the left and right edges lean in equally. The column closest to center should be vertical or close to it. You also need to play with the curves a little to lighten the aircraft. You were shooting towards a light source that was behind the aircraft and this causes the aircraft to be a little too dark. Make sure you tell the screeners in your screener remarks how you leveled the shot. I find this helps.

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RE: Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:36 pm

Quoting Acontador (Reply 2):
What I did was in the end to level it based on the V2 rocket to the right (in the original file more can be seen),

The V-2 doesn't look vertical. That may be odd but I'd leave it alone. The poles should be much more reliable.

Quoting Dlednicer (Reply 3):
I'd level it so that the columns at the left and right edges lean in equally. The column closest to center should be vertical or close to it

I figured that the left pole is leaning about 2.35 degrees and the right one minus 0.55 degrees, difference 2.9 degrees, and that the centre is at about a quarter of the distance between the two. Thus the centre is leaning about 2.2 degrees.
People with a good eye may have a good laugh at this method, but it works for me.

Quoting Acontador (Reply 2):
I cropped it with the wing clipped, since there were some people behind whose faces could be reckognized

I'd personally clip it a bit more then.
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RE: Your Opinion On Imperial War Museum Pics

Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:07 pm

Hi Guys,

Thanks again for the good advise - highly appreciated!
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