flugnord
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Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:54 am

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_5474tf-fts9okt.jpg
I like that one because the plane is bright when the clouts are dark.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_6567tf-ejg28okt1.jpg
That's cool.

Although this question might be annoying to some i am hoping that some other can pre screen it for me.
 
9V
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:01 am

Softness and grain on both of them I'm afraid. If they are both in the queue then I suggest you take them out and avoid both being rejected.  Smile
 
JeffM
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:05 am

Quoting Flugnord (Thread starter):
Although this question might be annoying to some i am hoping that some other can pre screen it for me.

First might if it gets fixed. Second one won't.
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:08 am

Quoting 9V (Reply 1):
Softness and grain on both of them I'm afraid

Where is the softness??? plese tell me, I'm sick and tired of being rejected.
 
aero145
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:28 am

Nr 2, too dark and grainy.

Nr 1, grainy and soft., and I can see a tiny amount of jaggies caused by oversharpening blurriness. Washed out feeling among in shadow under wing.

Aero145

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 3):
tired of being rejected.

By taking a lot of time editing your photos, looking at photogs with many new photos in the DB, and make them as good as possible, you won't get so many rejections. Take a look at me... I uploaded 15 last Saturday. 13 of the photos made it last night, and I took a lot of time for one image. They may not be the best, but still better than they were from the orginal. If you want I can take a look at the FTS photo and maybe fix it if the orginal will be IMO good enough.

[Edited 2006-10-30 23:33:08]
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 4):
Is this one sharp enough?

no.
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:34 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 4):
If you want I can take a llook at the FTS photo and maybe fix it if the orginall will be IMO good enough.

What does IMO mean??? And by the way there is only one L in look Big grin
 
aero145
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 6):
What does IMO mean???

In My Opinion

Quoting Flugnord (Reply 6):
And by the way there is only one L in look

Sorry, noticed that just a few seconds after I posted.  stirthepot 
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:42 am

Hey I'll send you the original pic.
 
aero145
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:08 am

You used ISO 200, f/11, 1/640th.

I'd use ISO 100, +1/3 exposure, f/8, Av (or M if you know how to use it).



Not great, not great photo either, at least I M O

EDIT: Forgot; why do you say "Will I Make It" instead of "Will They/It Make It?"?
You're not making your way into the DB, it's the photos taken by you.  Smile

[Edited 2006-10-31 00:19:32]
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:20 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
or M if you know how to use it

I always use M, thoug I'm not a genius Smile
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:22 am

Aero, Do you mind if I upload your edit?
 
eadster
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:28 am

I wouldn't upload that edit - its still grainy in dark areas.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 4):
By taking a lot of time editing your photos, looking at photogs with many new photos in the DB, and make them as good as possible, you won't get so many rejections.

Not overly true. The more time some take, the more the pic gets screwed up. I find and it varies with different people, that if a pic takes 10 - 20 mins to edit, then why bother? If it does not look right after a crop, level, sharpen, colour check, histogram check, and a dust spot check, then its not going to star. All that should take a few mins.

[Edited 2006-10-31 00:30:17]
 
flugnord
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:35 am

Well can some of you take a look at this list A Biiiiiiig Will I Make It Question. (by Flugnord Oct 29 2006 in Aviation Photography)
An tell me wits one to upload next??
 
eadster
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:58 am

Ok I've had a look at the ones in the other discussion.

They all have their own issues. Some are soft, some are blurry, but I still notice that many have alot of grain or image noise on them. As mentioned try with a lower ISO to see if this fixes the noise issues. Also maybe try a lower shutter speed, remembering to adjust other settings to match. The grain seems to be a bit of an issue so once that is cleared up, you may have a better chance. Depending on what the histograms say on the originals, maybe some exposure compensation may help too.

So I would forget about the other pics on the other discussion for the moment. Go and get some other shots on a nice fine day (hopefully not to rare in your location) for practise and see how they come out before getting too ahead of yourself.
 
aero145
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RE: Will I Make It?

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:32 pm

Quoting Eadster (Reply 12):
Not overly true.

Well, actually right.

Quoting Eadster (Reply 12):
its still grainy in dark areas.

You should know that I have bad experience with noise reduction in PS9  Smile

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