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The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:10 am

Hi all,

This thread is designed to show your more or less unusual photos that have recently been rejected for motive here. I think this might be interesting. Although some discussion will probably take place, the aim is not to complain but to help us all get a better understanding what's acceptable, just by showing the rejected pictures that we often don't get to see. And of course, your uappreciated gems will get some posthumous attention.

The rules I'd like to set are:
 tombstone  Post your rejected-for-motive photo without complaining - if the photo is really great, others will say so. Alternatively, start your own thread.
 tombstone  Don't post large images directly, but use links/thumbnails to keep the thread loadable.

To start it off, one of mine:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...tions/big/20061030_42-72683ptr.jpg

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:26 am

"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
 
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:37 am

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Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:53 am

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:21 pm

Quoting Goboeing (Reply 4):
There are dozens in the database like it

tsk tsk tsk...

Quoting Ptrjong (Thread starter):
Post your rejected-for-motive photo without complaining
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:22 pm

Quoting Eadster (Reply 2):

Someone screwed up in rejecting that one. Great shot! I know those are tough to do too!
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:48 pm

Kas, like I said, a crop to the right and down should do the trick.
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:59 pm


http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20061030_616_az.jpg  Sad
Was desperately trying to get this one in the db, as it is ene of my favourites of the Axalp Show this year. Unfortunately full frame as it is, and the fact that it is backlit does not help either. Anyway, hope you like it nonetheless!
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:13 pm

Quoting Eadster (Reply 2):

Great shot Martin, unlucky. The rejection is probably because of that dark blob at the bottom. Do you know what caused it?

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:30 pm

Depending on how "recent" is defined since I don't get the chance to upload very often, this was in April still in the throes of excitement with the PK772ERs stopping in MAN


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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:02 pm

Quoting Q330 (Reply 11):
The rejection is probably because of that dark blob at the bottom. Do you know what caused it?

I think that dark blob is Martin. Well, it looks like him anyway...!
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:32 pm

Quoting Q330 (Reply 11):
The rejection is probably because of that dark blob at the bottom. Do you know what caused it?

Looks to me like the shadow of lens or lenshood when in wideangle mode with internal flash!

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:02 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Thread starter):
more or less unusual photos that have recently been rejected for motive here

Try uploading such photos to MyAviation.net.

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My BA cabin photo above was rejected for motive. It has been the top photo at MyAviation.net for a week now. It is tough enough to get 100 hits at MyAviation. At 1100 hits so far, I can't complain and it may encourage A.Net to keep widening areas in aviation that deserve a place in it's database.

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:48 pm

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Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:49 pm

Click on images for large version.

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting Q330 (Reply 11):
The rejection is probably because of that dark blob at the bottom. Do you know what caused it?

I have had this problem with on camera flash and a hood. Thats probably it.

Mike
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 am

I have to admit these aren't motive rejections only (quite some center / distance stuff I used to get lately), but a couple of photos I wanted to share anyway, hope nobody minds.



http://www.floriantrojer.com/gallery/bilder/falcon.jpg



http://www.floriantrojer.com/gallery/bilder/iberia.jpg



http://www.floriantrojer.com/gallery/bilder/lauda.jpg

Cheers,
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:54 am

That 3rd one, it's amazing!
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:18 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 21):
That 3rd one, it's amazing!

The one over the water? Florian's? Yes, I agree. Would like to see it larger actually.

Tom
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:40 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 21):
That 3rd one, it's amazing!

I'm gonna try that too when we're there Big grin

(Hope you won't mind that Flo  Wink )
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 23):
I'm gonna try that too when we're there

you don't need a teleconvertor for that  Wink
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:02 am

Quoting TomTurner (Reply 22):
The one over the water? Florian's? Yes, I agree. Would like to see it larger actually.

Very nice indeed. Too bad it didn't find its place here.

Ivan

[Edited 2006-10-31 18:17:25]
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:10 am

Glad you all like it, here's a 1024 version  Smile

http://www.floriantrojer.com/gallery/bilder/lauda1024.jpg

Cheers,
Flo
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:42 am


http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ections/big/20061027_IMG_3932a.JPG
I think if I move to the crop to the right and sacrifice part of the left horizontal tail, it might make it in.
 
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:04 am



http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r.../20061006_TF-ISB-7562-26052006.jpg

Got to do it again with an ultra wide angle next year.

[Edited 2006-10-31 20:05:57]
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:36 am

Dang, some cool stuff here. I really like that 747 with the cars! Awesome perspective. I don't have any motive rejections of recent that I can remember to post.

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:00 am

Quoting Q330 (Reply 11):
The rejection is probably because of that dark blob at the bottom.

That was it, no lens hood, it was removed. The popup flash just doesn't sit high enough to get light to all areas. I'll have to try the shot again, when I get the cash to get a proper flash unit. When taking those shots, its a dark area to begin with!
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:42 am

IL76.....OMG!!!!!!!!!!
That first shot is fantastic!
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:05 am

I guess I just got lost here, I'm not a photographer. Can someone give a layman's explanation of "motive" used in this context? I don't see anything these pictures have in common and I would consider some of them to be "outstanding" in quality.
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:19 am

MOTIVE
Your photo(s) showed a motive that is not accepted by Airliners.net. This problem may be due to a very wide range of reasons.

Some of the most common examples are:


Photos showing just a part of an aircraft (with no motivation for doing so, like a special sticker, damage etc.). Additionally, cutting off the nose or a part of the tail can also result in a motive rejection.
Photos with distracting or obstructing objects in the foreground (this is especially true for gate shots which are very difficult to get accepted due to their common nature and the large amount of equipment which usually surrounds the aircraft). Any equipment or objects blocking parts of the aircraft will result in a motive rejection.
Photos that do not show an aircraft or anything sufficiently related to aviation at all. Common examples are photos of ramp equipment, like stairs, or cars. Or airport structures like radar towers, jet bridges, office buildings.
Photos showing the date in the lower left or right corner of the image. If your photos show the date on them please disable this feature on your camera.
Close up cockpit shots with the only reason for the shot being showing pilots waving.
Cockpit photos in which the pilots block out most of the panel
Photos taken through aircraft windows that show little wing/engine and have no airport visible on the ground.
Photos that include window reflections. These can result from taking photos through terminal windows or observations decks that are enclosed by glass. Shots taken through aircraft windows can also result in reflections, or can show scratches or dirt from those windows. This will also result in a motive rejection.
Photos taken inside aircraft that only show tables, dinner trays, or personal tv's. Cabin overviews that are taken from a very low standpoint and have seatbacks block out most of the image.
Please note that motive rejections can also result from other, more subjective reasons. These are usually of an aesthetical nature.
 
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:22 am

Quoting INNflight (Reply 20):
I have to admit these aren't motive rejections only (quite some center / distance stuff I used to get lately), but a couple of photos I wanted to share anyway, hope nobody minds.

That's perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned, Florian.
That third one of yours is indeed gorgeous, did you appeal it?

Nice to see the thread idea is working!

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting Brett (Reply 35):
IL76.....OMG!!!!!!!!!!
That first shot is fantastic!

LOL! I sure do remember the first time I saw that view.. I almost.. well S%^T myself. I am sure Kas could tell everyone :-P You just don't see that in the Houston.

Great shot Eduard  Smile  

As for recent motiv rej's..







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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:36 pm

Well, the shots I posted are not rejections, as I never uploaded them (I think I know a NOA_motive when I see one, at least I should as a screener  Wink). Just aviation related snaps that I like a lot. The whirl of light taken from the window is quite blurry too... hehe... (BTW: that's downtown London)

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:28 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 38):
That third one of yours is indeed gorgeous, did you appeal it?

Thanks Peter, yes appealed it but with no luck. Can see where the screener is coming from though.
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@Andreas: Fantastic shot! May I say that I think your Axalp shots are outstanding? It was my first year there and I really had a hard time getting nice shots, not and easy task at all (for me, at least). And then I look at your shots and wonder: How the hell did he do it?

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@Florian: Nice shots, as always.

Cheers.

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Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:17 pm

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:19 am

@Javibi: perfect panning on Patrouille Suisse photos! It's hard to get good formation shots with a long lens, but usually they are necessary at Axalp.
For a first timer at Axalp you did very well, especially as it has been very difficult to take photos this year due to the lack of snow, which usually refelcts the sunlight and thus counteracts the backlight. It was my 5th year, and my photos on the first day this time up there were still crap...

The Mirage shot you have shown here is, at least I think, still one of my best and most lucky shots I have taken. It was not that difficult as the Mirage IIIRS were always approaching the tower down from the valley, but that time the formation was just right to fit the frame.

The Mirage F1CR that year was a bit to fast. Unfortunately, and a high ISO does not help either to improve the quality. But anyway, the memory ot getting buzzed by it will remain forever  Wink

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:49 am

Here's my effort  Smile ...



Cheers,
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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:43 am


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Always liked that one..

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RE: The Motive Graveyard

Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:49 am

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ions/small/20061027_VH-OGLTAIl.jpg
If i uploaded it when i took it probably would of got accepted but since the tail rules/standards changed last couple months guess it was a destined for motive rejection.

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