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Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:15 pm

Hi guys,

Sorry if this has already been brought up: I'm curious what different airlines' policies towards photography in the cabin are. I'm thinking about flying with American Airlines in spring, but they seem to be hostile towards photography. Does this apply to window views & the use of video cameras as well? What happens if you still take pictures? Any comments about other major airlines?

Thomas
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JetJock22
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:59 pm

They can't technically do anything to you for taking pictures. Keep in mind though that while photography is not illegal onboard aircraft, if they ask you to stop, just be cool with it and stop so as not to cause a scene or worse, get yourself into trouble for disobeying an instruction from a flight crew which is against the law. That being said, I flew on AA few years back and on my leg from LAX-DFW on the 777, the FO was very cool and let me sit in the cockpit and even turn off some of the lights. Just depends on who you get. Good luck.
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting JetJock22 (Reply 1):
They can't technically do anything to you for taking pictures.

Yes, they can. When you are on the private property of a business, the business owner or employee has sole discretion whether to allow photography or not. Doesn't matter if it's an airplane, grocery store, office building or hospital, they're all still private property.

I've never had a problem in an airplane with a point-n-shoot, not even during takeoff or landing. But the first time I pulled out a dSLR they made me stow it for landing.

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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:22 am

I know Pan Am (the original) had a rule against photography/video on board their a/c. IIRC correctly, it was written in the back section of Clipper Magazine. I've seen FAs enforce it on occasion.

Personally, I've never been bothered for taking pictures out of the window, and as I don't generally take cabin shots (and basically never look at them either), I don't know the various airlines' reactions.
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting JetJock22 (Reply 1):
They can't technically do anything to you for taking pictures

What is it with some people here and authority? Of course they can stop you taking pictures. You are NOT the owner of the airline nor are you the owner of the aircraft.

Some airlines now find it a danger to have a camera of any type in your hand on take off and landing in case of an emergency. Plus, others also see it as an electronic device that "can interfer with the aircraft's navigational equipment".

For instance, here in Aus, Virgin Blue are cracking down on people taking pictures during take off and landing. They speak about it during the "electronic device" speech and photography equipment is now clearly mentioned.
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 4):
What is it with some people here and authority?

What has that got to do with authority? Did you read what I read after that? I'm pretty sure I wasn't advocating defying any type of authority here. All I said was don't be a moron about it...
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:40 am

I was on an AA flight a couple weeks ago. Had no problems using my SLR with 100-400 + extender and tripod for some tight cabin action shots. :P

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JetJock22
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:57 am

Yeah, just depends on who you get. Some are cool, some aren't. I always keep my camera in my locker at work and take it with me when I work the gate sometimes. Never had any problems with it.
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting LOCsta (Reply 6):
Had no problems using my SLR with 100-400 + extender and tripod for some tight cabin action shots.

Hahaha!

On a more serious side. I have only taken one inflight shot, aboard a Frontier flight from DEN-LAX a year ago in January. I felt odd doing it but I was at the back of the aircraft and 3 FA's were in the galley there and I just asked them. They asked what it was for and I asked if they had heard of this site. One of the three had and told me to go ahead. On AA about a year ago. On approach to ORD, the FA asked what I was doing as if it wasn't obvious. Told her just taking some shots on approach and she asked who for. Told her myself. She said it wasn't allowed. I had a perplexed look on my face I am sure. So I just quit while she was there and then started when she left. I have that approach shot in the DB. Anyway...I guess it just varies on crew. Some are tightasses.

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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:16 pm

With AA it's stated in the inflight magazine that photography is prohibited. Personally I haven't had any problems taking out the window shots, and even a few cabin/cockpit shots (but that was a good 5 years ago). Guess it depends on the crew too, a buddy of mine got his arse chewed out by a B6 F/A once.
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 9):
a buddy of mine got his arse chewed out by a B6 F/A once.

There are some that are just plain rude and nasty, but for the most part, the B6 fa's are really nice. So are the crews.
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:36 am

Thanks for your input so far, fellas. Just as a sidenote: I was flying with Continental last week & had no problems whatsoever shooting the cabin, the food & out of the window with my camcorder.

Thomas
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting TS (Thread starter):
they seem to be hostile towards photography

Are they really? I have flown with them several times taking photos from my window seat, & never been stopped when seen by flight attendants. Perhaps it was a certain member of the cabin crew getting nervous for some 'security' reason. boggled  P.s. - I doubt you'll be told anything if you upgrade to 1st class  Wink
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:16 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 4):
and photography equipment is now clearly mentioned.

Total crap. Doesn't affect nav equipment in the slightest. It just means that you 'aint taking any notice of the half-hearted hand signals that don't really show where your nearest exit is in the event of the aircraft crashing in a ball of flame that will kill you in .2 nanoseconds anyway !!!

OK, so that's possibly a bit of an OTT statement... but I regularly fly BA and have never had any grief from cabin crew for taking inflight pictures ( only one on an aviation website database, and it's not ANet !!)

Seems like there's always someone who wants to pi$$ on your day ?
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:04 am

Quoting BrianW999 (Reply 13):
Total crap. Doesn't affect nav equipment in the slightest

I know it doesn't affect the equipment! All I'm saying is that's the new speech they give before take off. They say the same thing before landing. I didn't want to cause any trouble so the camera stayed in the bad the whole flight. Weather turned to crap half way anyway!
 
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:56 pm

On one American Airlines 772 flight into LHR I tried to take a picture of the PTV map showing us going in endless circles waiting for clearance. The AA FA's immediately jumped on my ass for daring to take a photo of the cabin. I was told in no uncertain terms that taking photos of the cabin was not allowed and that any attempt to resist their commands would land me in lots of trouble and ruin my trip. American Airlines is basically anti-photographer in my view and they don't seem to mind losing a few customers in order to make an example out of you in front of everyone else. My advice is to stay the hell away from them and their overbearing nonsense.
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:44 pm

I haven't had many problems with airlines I have flown on such as Qantas, Malaysian, Air New Zealand and Jetstar except with Virgin Blue.

SATX, I have heard many such stories about American Airlines, so in my opinion that flight on the Hindenburg is looking better every day.  Silly
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:39 am

It's only illegal if you get caught.  Wink
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RE: Airlines & Cabin Photography

Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:26 pm

Quoting JetJock22 (Reply 10):
but for the most part, the B6 fa's are really nice. So are the crews.

Oh I know, funny thing was on the flight up (by myself) I was taking shots of the sunrise, and a F/A commented on my camera and how she liked it etc. Really luck of the draw.

I flew USAir once and asked if I could get a shot of the cockpit, I was standing in the doorway of the cockpit snaping a photo and the lead came up and yanked me out and said it was illegal to do that.

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