pitchul
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I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:53 pm

Please help me for this rejection please :

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/20061117_IMG_5090.JPG

Reasons : Quality, Common

Quality, sorry, but i don't see the bad quality here, it's a normal side-shot, sharp enough for the db.

Common, man, what i hat this reason  Smile. It's rare to see a 737-200 in LUX in the 21th century  Smile

Should i appeal ?

Thank you for your help

Emmanuel
 
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jid
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:23 pm

Hi Emmanuel, well it looks soft here at work and lacking in contrast. As for the 'common' I would of thought the composition with the Cargolux behind would cancel a common rejection but maybe not it seems.

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pitchul
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:48 pm

Quoting Jid (Reply 1):
i Emmanuel, well it looks soft here at work and lacking in contrast. As for the 'common' I would of thought the composition with the Cargolux behind would cancel a common rejection but maybe not it seems.

Jid

Thank you my friend, i will add a little more contrast and sharpen at home this evening and i will reupload it.

Emmanuel
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:26 pm

And one last thing,

Dear Screeners,

When you reject a picture like this, please don't just clic on "NOA-Quality". You certainly see everyday 100 pictures who are more bad than this one (Like cell-phone picture  Smile )

A NOA-Contrast or soft,is more comprehensible, no ?

Just my 2 cents  Smile

Emmanuel
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:55 pm

Emmanuel
I wont comment on the quality as I'm using a laptop screen at the moment .
But if you are going to re upload this pic maybe a smaller size then what you have at the moment would help.
Also the aircraft is not centred in the frame .
Good luck with it
Cheers
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:01 pm

Hi Emmanuel,
I'm not sure if you can fix the NOA_common. There are 99 shots of that plane in the database so you need something really special to get it accepted, I'm afraid.

Cheers
Jan
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:15 pm

Hi

Emmanuel got a common rejection for the ''G-CEAE'' and this guy got 2 pictures from ''G-CEAE'' accepted taken at the same day , that confuse me...

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127559/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127558/L/


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pitchul
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:43 pm

Quoting Tom3 (Reply 6):
Hi

Emmanuel got a common rejection for the ''G-CEAE'' and this guy got 2 pictures from ''G-CEAE'' accepted taken at the same day , that confuse me...

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127559/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127558/L/


Tom

Yeah, that's really strange.

And i think there is NO pictures of him with a CLX passing behind him in motion blur  Smile

I can understand your frustrationTom. See you in LUX this week-end  Smile

Manu
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:57 pm

Quoting Tom3 (Reply 6):
Hi

Emmanuel got a common rejection for the ''G-CEAE'' and this guy got 2 pictures from ''G-CEAE'' accepted taken at the same day , that confuse me...

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127559/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1127558/L/

Now those are some sharp photos compared to the one in question here. Just compare the sharpness itself to your shot and you'll know why they made it in. Other than that you photo also has a certain flatness to it. Plus, it lacks contrast.
And it's also bad practise to question other photos that already made it into the db.

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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:05 pm

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 8):
And it's also bad practise to question other photos that already made it into the db.

It's not the fault of the photographer , but I can't understand why the screeners accept 2 pictures of the same plane/location when there are nearly 100 pictures in the DB of ''G-CEAE'' and then Emmanuel got a ''Common'' rejection..


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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:33 pm

I think the issue with Emanuel photo is a combination of lack of contrast, slight softness and common subject. Hence the rejection.

I realise that common is particularly hard for photographers as this aircraft may not be common for you at all but I think common is generally given in connection with other issues.

Daniel
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting Danny (Reply 10):
think the issue with Emanuel photo is a combination of lack of contrast, slight softness and common subject. Hence the rejection.

I agree with you at 100%, but than WHY NOA-Qality instead of NOA-CONTRAST and SOFT
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:42 pm

If it was an exceptionally high quality photo *it is a bit soft and lacking in contrast as mentioned*...you might not have received the common rejection IMHO. Nice attempt nonetheless. I really like the blur.
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 12):
Nice attempt nonetheless. I really like the blur.

Thx  Smile Me too  Smile
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:12 am

Maybe Common was selected instead of a different rejection reason...?

The photo seems to be very soft, almost as if she is out of focus. Also, if the quality is not as best as others have suggested, try editing the photo to be at a smaller size - 1024x for example.

Bmi
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:48 am

I think screeners in such cases include the common rejection just to tell you that there are so many pictures of that very same aircraft already in the DB that yours needs to be of higher quality to get accepted (which in this case unfortunately is not). But then again I have been proven wrong in the past...  duck 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:11 am

Nice shot, one of those I would want to return to to have another look... I personally think it might be salvageable. Definetely needs some careful sharpeninig and contrast adjustment. I also agree that editing to 1024x could help as well.
 
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RE: I Don't See The Reason Here

Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:19 am

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 4):
But if you are going to re upload this pic maybe a smaller size then what you have at the moment would help.

Just what I was thinking.

Surely a blurred 747 in the background makes the shot a fair amount different that the others? If anything it's a good shot to compare sizes of aircraft.

Smaller size, a bit sharper and it could be a go.

Martin

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