Brett
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Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:25 am

A quick question to all the Sydney spotters..........

When going out to Mascot: do you wing it and just grab whatever's coming and going ie you work around the time of day or are you going out to shoot specific aircraft regardless of lighting and the work on it in post processing?

Reason I ask is that I desperately want to catch a South African Airways ac but their arrival and departure times are always "bad time of day to shoot". There is one coming in today at 3:26pm so I'll be out trying to grab it. Last time I tried the flight was delayed for hours Sad

what do you guys do?

I usually check in at ozradar (to see direction of take offs/landings), airport message board (for any news) all sorts of info out there....guess I'm just a newbie struggling to put it all together.
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:27 am

ps, will I ever get to see a 747SP? Seems unlikely but I've heard there's one in a hangar in Canberra.....I could be wrong?
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:46 am

Brett, after a while you get a feel for what is coming and going at different times of the day, and the best times of day, hence you will see folk on the Eastern side of runways in the morning, ie the tower mound or around on Qantas Dve at the approaches to 16R, In the afternoon when lots of the heavies depart you will find some of those same folk around at the Beach Carpark near the old ATC tower.
The SAA SA7700 flight today (Saturday) Due 14:35 current ETA 15:40 should be easy to recognise, it is a big white jumbo with a strange animal on the red tail!.. Oh no that would be QF 64 from JNB. Sadly the quick glance at Sydney arrivals that shows many varied and exotic airlines is a tad misleading, many of those are codeshares with QF/SQ/BA etc.

International Arrival info (along with Departures & Domestic Arr/Dep) is avail here-
http://www.sydneyairport.com.au

YSSY message board is good for news, Ozradar is a great thing and I admire Balt and his efforts in implementing and maintaining the site but it is limited by two things, not enough A/C currently have ADS/B implemented and unless you are very close to the airport you may not get enough warning.

Quoting Brett (Thread starter):
specific aircraft regardless of lighting and the work on it in post processing?

Sometimes yes, if there is something rare or unusual ie GulfAir during the day or an unusual visitor, you just gotta take what you can get.. sometimes it works sometmes it doesn't.

On the 747SP question, you may have to travel to see one, and don't leave it that long, one in Canberra , I doubt it, not sure there is a hangar there that could conceal a 747SP, be one of aviation' better kept secret if it was.

Cheers and keep at it,

Chris

[Edited 2006-11-17 23:51:14]
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
 
Brett
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:10 am

Hey Chris, thanks for the informative reply.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
many of those are codeshares with QF/SQ/BA etc.

...what does that mean? That it's a SAA flight using a QANTAS ac?

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
In the afternoon when lots of the heavies depart you will find some of those same folk around at the Beach Carpark near the old ATC tower.
The SAA SA7700 flight today (Saturday) Due 14:35 current ETA 15:40 should be easy to recognise, it is a big white jumbo with a strange animal on the red tail!.

lol, ok so this afternoon I'll head out to the Beach and shoot my beloved SAA in its new livery! :-/

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
On the 747SP question, you may have to travel to see one, and don't leave it that long, one in Canberra , I doubt it, not sure there is a hangar there that could conceal a 747SP, be one of aviation' better kept secret if it was

Check out this link....scroll to bottom and look at text across from date h/lighted in red.

http://www.747sp.com/History.asp?21648

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
Cheers and keep at it,

Will do, thanks Chris

Brett
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:34 am

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
Oh no that would be QF 64 from JNB

How did you figure this out?
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:59 am

Brett,
South african airways dont fly to Sydney anymore they codeshare with Qantas flights,thats what Chris was elaborating on,KLM,Finnair,Lufthansa all are codeshares with other airlines and dont send their AC to Sydney.

Cheers Mark.
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 5):
South african airways dont fly to Sydney anymore

Excuse my ignorance guys but I did not know. So my guess the next best airport to spot for this airline would be PERTH?

What a disappointment - Ah well, I'll go out and make do with what we got...lol
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:36 am

Yes Perth is only Australian destination SAA still send their aircraft.

Their was a 747SP in Canberra earlier this month,It was here for Melbourne cup...One of United Arab Emirates aircraft.
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:45 pm

Quoting Brett (Reply 4):
How did you figure this out?

Hey Brett,
Not being patronising at all because a couple of years ago this all seemed like some kind of magic to me as well.
By watching sites like the Sydney Airport arrivals site, the YSSY Message board etc you get a feel for what is going on.... generally if there is a flight from an airline not normally seen at YSSY that arrives/departs the same time as a QF/SQ/MH/BA etc then it will be a code share.

Cheers

Chris
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Brett
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:59 am

thanks guys, it all seems so complicated.....all I wanted was a pic of a SAA 747 lol.

BTW, anyone going out to Mascot next week for the A380 visit?
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:59 am

Quoting Brett (Reply 9):
thanks guys, it all seems so complicated.....all I wanted was a pic of a SAA 747 lol.

BTW, anyone going out to Mascot next week for the A380 visit?

Yes I will be there in the afternoon on he 28th
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 10):
Yes I will be there in the afternoon on he 28th

Ok, I've decided to have one of those two days off to go out and take some pics......looking to maybe meet and greet a couple of you fine fellows.
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:19 pm

.....and maybe I can learn something!
 
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RE: Spotting At YSSY....again

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:10 pm

I would say conditions for photography of A380 arent going to be the best if it arrives at around midday and departs same time too.

Sun will be in wrong position and Heathaze and hot conditions hanging around seems like a day to just go watch it without the camera.

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