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Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:33 am

Hi all,

took a week off to come back to reality, and got another rejection. This time, for level. Here's the photo:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1116_N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817.jpg

The problem is, there's a gently sloping hill in the background, so I leveled with the vertical walls of the building. Do you have any suggestions on how I should level it?

TIA

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:39 am

When I level I like to take a look at the whole background and not concentrate on specific poles and buildings. If you do that with yours you can easily see it's leaning ever so slightly to the right and can use a little CCW rotation. Poles are great are but for shots that have that type of landsape I like using the whole horizon as a guide.
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:03 am

I think it could use a little CCW. I do think it has other problems however, such as dark/contrast and maybe color. Looks off to me.

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:21 am

Quoting Fiveholer (Reply 2):
I think it could use a little CCW. I do think it has other problems however, such as dark/contrast and maybe color.

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I also see some jaggies and a little grain, but all of the mentioned things ought to be improvable as overall it's a great capture.
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:12 am

Thanks for your comments!

I reedited it, and came up with this. When I rotated the shot, it wiped out the horizon mostly.

I don't know - it looks good on my screen at home, but not so great on my work screen (which is not a great screen). How does it look on yours?

Thanks again,
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
How does it look on yours?

How does what look? You forgot the link  Wink
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:03 am

*smacks head*

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817_2.jpg

I made the mistake of drinking with people from Wales this weekend. Lots of fun, but apparently, the effects haven't worn off.
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:34 am

Damon
Looks better but the image looks slightly soft to me.

Quoting D L X (Reply 6):
I made the mistake of drinking with people from Wales this weekend. Lots of fun, but apparently, the effects haven't worn off.

Nice one  Smile
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:35 am

Hi Damon
I think the new version is better in terms of level, but I also think you've overdone the contrast or levels adjustments - a little more contrast would be better and it's a bit soft around the nose as well. On my screen at least  Smile
Very nice perspective though!
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:50 am

Damon - To me, the new version has washed out colours, some parts are over-exposed and overall its soft.
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:45 am

okay, one more try. What do you think?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1..._X/N24729_DCA_102906_DSC6817_3.jpg

Thanks all for your help.
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:09 pm

Looks better but i think the saturation is overdone now.
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:45 pm

Nose is soft/ blurry.

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:55 pm

Some selective sharpening on the nose might help.
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:19 pm

Rejected again! I took your advice and didn't up the saturation, and this time it was rejected for color and contrast. ???

Any thoughts? I would welcome screener input on this. Should I appeal?

Thanks,

Damon

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:24 pm

No chance of appeal for this one I'm afraid, the contrast is way off giving the images a very misty appearance. A full re-work for this one I would say.

Good luck,

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:02 pm

The airplane is pink. Did CO change their colors?
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:09 pm

Quoting 777MechSys (Reply 16):
The airplane is pink.

Huh?! That's really strange.

A quick look at my photoshop eyedropper tool shows four points on the fuselage that are (RGB) = (178, 173, 180), (138, 136, 139), (117, 112, 117), and (236, 234, 237).

The sky is pinkish, that's for sure. But the plane should be pretty close to white. Does it show up pink on anyone else's monitor? And would anyone know why that would happen?
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
The sky is pinkish, that's for sure. But the plane should be pretty close to white. Does it show up pink on anyone else's monitor? And would anyone know why that would happen?

Make sure your color work settings are set to sRGB as this is the only color profile Windows based browsers will resolve correctly. Adobe RGB will have a 'washed out' look when viewed via the internet.

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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:04 am

Quoting Jid (Reply 18):
Make sure your color work settings are set to sRGB as this is the only color profile Windows based browsers will resolve correctly. Adobe RGB will have a 'washed out' look when viewed via the internet.

Here's my normal process:
1) I shoot RAW, with Adobe RGB color space.
2) In CS2, I edit in Adobe RGB color space
3) Before saving a JPG, I convert to sRGB
4) Save and upload.

Is this a problem? I've noticed that the A.net scripts don't seem to like handling any JPG besides those encoded in sRGB.
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:04 am

Here is a real quick adjustment. I think this will make the pink/red cast stand out better.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 695 File size: 388kb
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:19 pm

Okay, taking 777Mech's advice, I've adjusted the colors. Using Jid's advice, I increased the contrast. What do you think now? Do I have a winner?

http://www1.airliners.net/uf/225/1164698093WLcLs8.jpg
 
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:46 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 19):
Here's my normal process:
1) I shoot RAW, with Adobe RGB color space.
2) In CS2, I edit in Adobe RGB color space
3) Before saving a JPG, I convert to sRGB
4) Save and upload.

Is this a problem? I've noticed that the A.net scripts don't seem to like handling any JPG besides those encoded in sRGB.

Well your gaining nothing by working in Adobe RGB because when you do the conversion sRGB you 'loose' the colour range from ARGB and PS replaces the colour with what it thinks is the best substitution. The only advantage of using ARGB over sRGB is if you are having your shots professionally printed. Most highstreet printers, like Photobox used by a.net expect sRGB format. And again all Windows based browsers will only reproduce sRGB, any other format will washed out of have a colour hue.
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RE: Level Rjxn - Screener/general Comment Requested

Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:33 pm

Hi Damon, I have looked at your latest image and it still appears to have a pinkish hue to it. I have removed some of it in this modified version of your image.


Hope this helps .. Jid
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