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walter2222
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"Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:07 am

Hi there,

I recently had a rejection for "dark":

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...061011_CRW_6990_RT8_WVB_1200px.jpg

I agree with the reject, because at the time of shooting, it was indeed getting darker (only a couple rays of late afternoon sunshine were shining through the trees). I have a similar one already in the database (from another angle), but I like this angle as well (that was my reasoning for trying to get this in as well, besides the fact that it is preserved and that there are only a few in the database with this registration)

Can it be saved? I don't know what to do now (i.e. how to improve?). Is it allowed to make it a little bit lighter (although it was not really that way when I took the shot), or is that called "bad manipulation"? I also think that there is a risk to make it more grainy, if I try to lighten it...

Any suggestions?

Thanks and regards,

Walter
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:15 am

Nice crop! I'd lighten the shadows, either with the curves in Photoshop or with the Shadows/Highlights tool (if your version has it). Then, I'd go into Levels and shift the Input Level to 1.10 or even 1.15.
 
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:22 pm

Nice shot, Walter. I believe it has a chance.  yes 
Try working out with the curves. I can´t say about the shadow/highlights tool because I don´t use it that much myself.
Another comment here: the pic gives me the impression of leaning to the left (CCW), isn´t it? I´ve compared the symmetry and apparently it is correctly level, but I though there was a badlevel problem, on my first look at it, when the pic was opened. I just wanted to tell you in case you see it, so as to improve the picture.
Anyway, good luck with it.  thumbsup 
Hope to see it soon in the DB.

Cheers!
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jajo
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:06 pm

I also thought it was unlevel when I opened it first time.

/ jajo
 
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:48 am

Hi guys,

Thanks for the feedback!

I will try a re-edit from scratch.

PS: Although I always check for horizontal/vertical correctness, I had the same thoughts about this shot that it was leaning a bit CCW... I will have a second go at it while doing the re-edit.

Best regards,

Walter
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:42 pm

This personal favourite was also rejected for DARK.
http://www1.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20061210_EC-JEHptr.jpg

I personally don't like this version better, but would it stand a chance?
http://www1.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/EC-JEH-2ptr.jpg

Thanks as always for your opinions,

Peter Smile
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:16 pm

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
I personally don't like this version better, but would it stand a chance?

It is better, and I hope (and believe) it makes it because the picture is so cool!

/ jajo
 
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:27 am

Quoting Jajo (Reply 6):

Thanks Jacob, I guess I will keep it in the queue.
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:12 am

Peter

Is it possible that the pic is unlevel? The a/c is leaning to the left. I don´t know if it´s due to a slope on the runway or any reason besides the edit.
Maybe it´s just my eyes misleading me, but just check it out before you upload it.

Cheers!
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RE: "Dark" Rejection - What To Do?

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:43 am

Hi Lanas,

You're right, the aircraft is definitely not level. I believed the taxiway not to be level in this spot, and choose to level the false horizon between the yellow lines in the background.
However, I now see that the wings of the second and third aircraft are unlevel, too. So, though it was not rejected for this, I should probably simply level the aircraft.

Thanks!
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