Lanas
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My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:24 am

Hi guys

I´ve been full of quality rejections lately.  weeping  I really need a hand on what I´m doing wrong, or if there are any unsaveable issues. I post here a couple of them, so as to get started:

Aerolineas 737-500

Austral MD-81

LAN Argentina A320

Could you help me sort out the quality problems? Any comments appreciated.  yes 
Thank you very much!  Smile

Cheers!
Lanas.-
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eadster
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:46 pm

I'm seeing traces of a point and shoot camera.

Nothing can be done to improve these I have to say.
 
Lanas
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 1):
I'm seeing traces of a point and shoot camera.

You´re right.  worried  It´s my humble equipment, but where do you see those 'traces' or problems?
Thanks for your help!  bigthumbsup 

Cheers!
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:33 am

Hi Gaston,

I am currently travelling, so using my laptop (not too reliable screen for this purpose). I think on all three images there is a combination of factors that sum up to the quality rejection (since I also have had quite a lot lately, I am getting an expert for that  Wink ). The factors are: Grain, bad light (direction), contrast and sharpness. On its own probably none of these kills the shots, but they all seem to suffer from all of these things to a more or less extent. Sorry to be rather wage (maybe a screener can be more specific?)...
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:13 am

Gaston,

What Andres said above pretty much covers it. Basically, it's a a bunch of little things that add up to an overall quality problem. Looking at the first shot, some areas are soft, some are oversharpened while others are muddy. If these are lightly edited and what closely resembles what comes out of your camera not sure there is much that can be done. If the quality straight out of cam is much better, perhaps getting help with your PP could provide for better results.

Another tip would be to try your best to not cutoff the rear horiz. stabs, like you did on the 1st two photos. While they alone might not cause a rejection, I feel they add to the overall quality problem (IMO, bad crop).

Mike
 
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:30 am

Thank you Andres and Mike for your feedback. I really appreciate it.  goodvibes 
I have to train my eye better for these quality rejections. I still can´t figure them out right.  eyepopping 

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 4):
while others are muddy

What do you mean by 'muddy'? Grainy?

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 4):
If these are lightly edited and what closely resembles what comes out of your camera not sure there is much that can be done. If the quality straight out of cam is much better, perhaps getting help with your PP could provide for better results

They are not slightly edited, but I don´t think the quality of the original is the greatest you can see. It´s OK. I mean, I´ve had some nice pics accepted, but I guess I depend a lot from the lighting, weather and other factors, since I don´t have total control of the usual variables (aperture, speed, ISO, etc).

I revise my worflow occasionally and make some changes with some tips I learn here. Is that what you mean for PP?

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 4):
Another tip would be to try your best to not cutoff the rear horiz. stabs, like you did on the 1st two photos. While they alone might not cause a rejection, I feel they add to the overall quality problem (IMO, bad crop).

I agree. I always try to do that, but on the MD I didn´t have much chance.

I guess I´ll start over again. I´ll try to show you other quality rejections so you can help me out.
Thank you very much for your help!  cheerful 

Cheers!  Smile
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:58 pm

Quoting Lanas (Reply 5):
What do you mean by 'muddy'? Grainy?

Muddy as in colors/edges run together, like the ramp on the first pic. (ie too soft)

Quoting Lanas (Reply 5):
I revise my worflow occasionally and make some changes with some tips I learn here. Is that what you mean for PP?

Yes, PP would mean post-processing, aka workflow.

Mike
 
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:32 am

Thanks guys for the feedback.
I would like to have some comments on these following pics, if possible.  veryhappy 
Are they that bad?  duck 
All rejected for quality too.  frown 

LV-ZZD

CX-BOP

LV-BFO

Cheers!  Smile
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting Lanas (Reply 7):
Are they that bad?

No, but you still have to improve the quality. First, shoot in good light. Your pictures are taken in quite gray weather. Try to get good sunlight, that often means better quality. Be careful with the sharpening, they look jagged in some places. And aviod to get fence on the picture.

/ jajo
 
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RE: My Quality Rejections - Please Help

Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Jajo (Reply 8):
No, but you still have to improve the quality. First, shoot in good light. Your pictures are taken in quite gray weather. Try to get good sunlight, that often means better quality. Be careful with the sharpening, they look jagged in some places. And aviod to get fence on the picture.

Nice tips, Jacob.  Smile
I don´t have a lot of flexibility with my camera, so I´m pretty stuck into good weather and good lighting conditions. It´s just that the last times I could spot the weather was not the greatest.
Thanks for your comments.  Wink

Cheers!
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