Stil
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Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:32 pm

Guess what? Two more rejections. Both due evilest reason a screener can give. Quality. Just quality. It's obvious... If something is rejected is always to due bad quality!!! Maybe somebody makes good quality rejections? It's called masochism, I guess. The single word "rejection" implicitly means bad quality!
On the other hand. Could a generous soul tell me what's wrong with this two pics?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20061212_jECJAZbacklitTO.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20061206_jECHOVwetTO.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20061204_jECHBMrotate.jpg

I can't even think about the reason of the first one. Second is a tad soft and the third is oversharpened (I guess), but there is specific rejection reasons for that!!!

Thanks everydody in advance.

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jajo
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:26 pm

Quoting Stil (Thread starter):
Could a generous soul tell me what's wrong with this two pics?

First of all, I really like the first picture. Really beautiful! Technically however, it is overexposed, soft, not correctly centered and maybe also motive. I think such "creative" pictures at very special conditions are the hardest to get accepted.

The second one has a strange center. I understand that you want to show the water splash, but it looks strange and unbalanced.

The third one has problems with contrast and is also a bit overexposed.

I guess the screener used "quality" as a reject reason since the pictures fall on many points. Summed up, it gives a general quality problem.

/ jajo

[Edited 2006-12-13 11:31:53]
 
eadster
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:30 pm

Well I think the following...

The first is great, but there is something about it, I dunno what it is, but I would have guessed that Anet would not like it. I think there is a lot of glare on the shot which takes away from the silhouette of the aircraft.

Second - another good one. I think here there should have been a centered mentioned. Why? well because I feel there is not enough of the spray to warrant having the aircraft off centre. I could be wrong, thats just my feelings on the shot. Quality is ok, but its not the best. Soft yet jaggered in places.

Lastly - Shot is ok in some spots yet soft in others. Wings on the left are a good example. These are very soft and therefore reduce the quality of the shot somewhat. The right hand side ones are a little jaggered too.

Hope this helps you a bit.

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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:04 pm

First one is distance quality and exposure. It is not really silhouette picture but taken against the sun which caused quality and exposure problems. Obviously on anet you must crop closer to the aircraft.

Second one, I see what you wanted to show but per anet rules it has to be distance and centered. Quality average.

Third one has a weird color cast, grass looks very unnatural. Quality average.

Personally I agree with all three rejections.
 
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:30 am

Thanks for the kind answers, Jajo, Martin and David. Your help is greatly appreciated.
The first pic was taken with clear daybreak, but it was heavily raining until 30 min before dawn. I suppose that's the reason there are some glares on the aircraft. I could try a closer crop, but I wanted to show a still landscape. But...

Quoting Jajo (Reply 1):
I think such "creative" pictures at very special conditions are the hardest to get accepted.



Quoting Eadster (Reply 2):
there is something about it, I dunno what it is, but I would have guessed that Anet would not like it



Quoting Danny (Reply 3):
Obviously on anet you must crop closer to the aircraft

Then, Mr. screener, push the MOTIVE button
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:40 am

Srry for the second part. I pushed the "post" message button.
If the second one is another motive rejection, I won't say anything because the pics shows the a/c and the water spray. But I agree with mentioned here.

All pics I took with the third pic has the same colour cast. Maybe is the reverberation of light into wet air what causes it, but I agree it has a strange appearance.

I repeat the sincere thanks for your comments. Taht was really useful

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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:21 pm

Quoting Stil (Reply 4):
Quoting Danny (Reply 3):
Obviously on anet you must crop closer to the aircraft

Then, Mr. screener, push the MOTIVE button

Actually it is a "distance" button  Wink
 
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:01 pm

I like the first one. Maybe you should have tried a crop like this.

Big version: Width: 400 Height: 285 File size: 112kb


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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:31 pm

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/jECJAZbacklitTO.jpg

Thanks, Jan: I think I'll give a new edit a new opportunity

Quoting Danny (Reply 6):
Actually it is a "distance" button

Well... Uhhh. Yes. That's what I meant...  Yeah sure
The meaning is there's another button. According with reply 1-2 is motive, yours is distance. Thanks, danny, for your explanation.

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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:44 pm

first shot was pretty blinding...
 
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:35 pm

Hi Stil,

The first one looks to me way to overexposed for a silhouette shot, and way to dark/backlit for a regular one - so really neither one. Honestly, I do not think it is for A.net - sorry.

Quoting Jajo (Reply 1):
The second one has a strange center. I understand that you want to show the water splash, but it looks strange and unbalanced.



Quoting Jajo (Reply 1):
The third one has problems with contrast and is also a bit overexposed.



Quoting Eadster (Reply 2):
Second - another good one. I think here there should have been a centered mentioned. Why? well because I feel there is not enough of the spray to warrant having the aircraft off centre. I could be wrong, thats just my feelings on the shot. Quality is ok, but its not the best. Soft yet jagged in places.



Quoting Eadster (Reply 2):
Lastly - Shot is ok in some spots yet soft in others. Wings on the left are a good example. These are very soft and therefore reduce the quality of the shot somewhat. The right hand side ones are a little jagged too.

Nothing more to add for the other two.
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting Stil (Reply 8):
Thanks, Jan: I think I'll give a new edit a new opportunity

Better, but still center. Try cropping so the empty space is equal both behind and in front of the plane. Still, it is overexposed and soft. It will probably get "quality" again. Sorry!

I'd say give up this shot, upload it to MyAviation or keep it to your personal collection. Personally I like it much, but I see no point of keeping it in queue as it is probably getting rejected.

/ jajo
 
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RE: Help With Some Frustrating Rejections!

Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:59 am

Quoting Acontador (Reply 10):
The first one looks to me way to overexposed for a silhouette shot, and way to dark/backlit for a regular one

I think here is the real problem.  thumbsup 
I'll give up with this one, although it's an airport with only 29 pics here (most of them of small props and helicopters). I'll give priority to other pics I have in my hard disc. Much bored, but of better quality (I think).
The pic was shooted at 55mm; a tighter crop will have serious problems with sharpness. It's a real pity. I didn't see a wet tarmac with a clear daybreak in 10 years working here.
Thanks everybody. You keep my interest on this site alive!

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