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Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:18 am

This is getting frustrating, or my eyes are teasing me.

Dec 1 I had the chance to get a night shot of the Helvetic F100 with the new colors. I uploaded as hot photo, but had it rejected for motive after 5 days (remember: hot photo - 5 days). Possibly because of a lamp, who knows, who cares.

Anyway, I uploaded another version as hot photo again (at this time, there was just one photo of that livery in the db), this time rejected for unlevel (again after 5-6 days), much to my surprise, so appealed and got it rejected again (of course! I mean, one accepted appeal this millenium should tell me a story...):
http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise...ery/f100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_3959.jpg

OK, perhaps I'm getting old, so I rotated the photo, uploaded again as hot photo, but forgot to state why it was a hot photo. I mean, I thought, they would finally know it after 2 fruitless attempts. Of course, rejected after a few hours "priority why?". I asked, if I had to upload again. Reply:
"There is a message in your rejection:
"f100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_fan.jpg priority why?"
If you mark priority, and the aircraft isn’t considered to be priority, it will be rejected.

Please upload again without the “priority” box ticked."

Of course, uploaded again and of course rejected again for unlevel (remember, I rotated as told by the screener and headscreener). Note to self: one accepted appeal in this millenium should really tell you a story! http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...1212_f100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_fan.jpg

Funny thing: It was also rejected for not having changed it. Of course, an appealed shot is not in the rejected queue anymore. So, the screeners compared the shot with the one I was told to upload again without the “priority” box ticked (see above).

That's the best way to p*ss off photogs, but anyway: how much do I have to rotate the photo to make it level?

Gerardo
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:39 am

It needs CW rotation for sure. I used the measure tool but it still looked like it needed more than .6 CW rotation. I ended up at about .9-1.0 degrees CW rotation and that looked ok to my eyes.
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:49 am

Not an easy one to level as there are no real points to use, but rotating it till it looked/felt right I would use about a 1deg CW rotation, based on the first one/link that you have posted.

Hope that helps

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:09 am

As to priority, if it took five days priority was probably not granted, maybe because the other photo was meanwhile in the db?

When you uploaded for the second time, the other photo was in the db, and so there was no ground to ask for priority. Let alone the third time.

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:14 am

Thanks guys

Matt, just to make it sure: which photo are you referring to? Not that I rotate in the wrong direction again

Fegul, I rotated also 1° to check. In my opinion, the photo looks unlevel, but perhaps because I know, there is a bit of distortion due to the wide angle. I guess, you levelled it acording to that building on the right, correct?

Anyway, here is a version, rotated a bit less than 1° compared to the 1st one.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_3959_fan4.jpg
Any better?


Gerardo

[Edited 2006-12-19 22:22:55]
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:22 am

Sorry about not being specific. I used the 2nd photo you linked.
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:24 am

Thanks Matt! Equals more or less Fergul's suggestion.

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:14 am

Quoting Gerardo (Reply 4):
I guess, you levelled it acording to that building on the right, correct?

Nope!!  Smile The building on the far right is too far to the side to be used as a reliable leveling datum. I leveled the aircraft till I felt that the whole photo looked right. Your photo has a feel that it's leaning to the left.

Hope that helps

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:18 am

Do you mean the one in the queue?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_3959_fan4.jpg

Cheerio
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting Gerardo (Reply 4):
Anyway, here is a version, rotated a bit less than 1° compared to the 1st one.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_3959_fan4.jpg
Any better?

The above link doesn't work but the earlier one looks a lot better, just be carefull of your exposure, some areas are borderline over-exposed.

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:49 am

Sorry for the bad link, I meant this one:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...100_2l_hb-jvc_061201_3959_fan4.jpg

As so far the highlights have not been cause for a rejection, I'll let it in the queue.

Thanks so far
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:05 pm

Gerardo

It´s better now but I think it has gone a little off CW, in my opinion. It´s like if the ramp was leaning to the right side.
I guess you should find a good feel by checking on the lightposts under the tail and the cars seen through the space below the fuselage. Get a good average level for both elements and you should be fine with it.

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 3):
When you uploaded for the second time, the other photo was in the db, and so there was no ground to ask for priority

Correct. I believe priority screening is allowed for the first pic, since it´s a way of allowing hot news to reach the site faster.

Good luck with it.  Smile

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:22 pm

Hi Gerry

I really can feel your pain re those countless rejections for only 1 picture. i think everything has been said on that topic.

Re the last picture I also think it now needs a tiny CCW rotation ...

Hope to see u around again at ZRH

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:07 pm

Quoting Rotate (Reply 12):
Re the last picture I also think it now needs a tiny CCW rotation ...

Hi Gerardo
yes that's how it looks to me as well. A tiny bit of CCW... Interesting to see how difficult it gets in a shot like this... Good luck, I hope that a shot of this quality shot gets accepted at some point.
 
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:41 pm

On a slight side note (not sure if mentioned above) I like the one linked from a different site, as alot of the yellow cast was removed.
 
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:17 am

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:38 am

Quoting Gerardo (Reply 15):
Would that look better then?

A lot better,  bigthumbsup  let us know how you get on!!

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:25 am

I'll put the first one and keep you updated. See you in a week or so  Wink

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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:18 pm

It took a bit longer than a week to screen it but anyway:

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gerardo Dominguez



Thanks guys!
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RE: Question About Leveling A Photo

Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:24 pm

Quoting Gerardo (Reply 18):
Thanks guys!

You are very welcome, glad to see in the DB,  bigthumbsup 

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