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Editing Help Needed!

Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:38 pm

I have tried several edits on this difficult shot. It has been rejected twice. The last rejection was for quality, contrast and color. In my remarks to the screener, I explained that this shot was taken at 9.30am London time in haze and sun glare on the fuselage.There was a limit as to what I could do with contrast and color. I did remove a blueish color cast.


http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/..._0215EditedlvlG-MIDRTakeoffLHR.jpg

Success with this shot will add to my experience as I have some other shots similar to this that I have not processed. I would appreciate anyone with experience with this type of shot to take a crack at editing this shot. Below, I have uploaded a resized but unprocessed shot for you. Your help will be appreciated and hopefully I will learn from you.

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:59 pm

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Thread starter):
The last rejection was for quality, contrast and color. In my remarks to the screener, I explained that this shot was taken at 9.30am London time in haze and sun glare on the fuselage.There was a limit as to what I could do with contrast and color.

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:13 pm

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Thread starter):
I explained that this shot was taken at 9.30am London time in haze and sun glare on the fuselage

Ken,
explaining things to screeners not necessarly means to get your shots accepted. You can have all conditions which could justify a bad result but that does not mean your appeal will be taken into consideration....Considering the non-optimal weather conditions I wouldn't have hassled taking any shot, but this is probably because I have already had bad results with that kind of haze/humidity in the air. In fact that gives almost always to the shot a grainy appearance. Some photogs have made wonderful shots with fog and rain, but you need a lot of experience and luck to get the best out of that weather conditions. I don't think your shot can be saved. Probably a massive re-edit with PS and a competent fashion-skilled graphic designer (like the ones that Vicotria's Secret owns... ) could...but honestly I wouldn't try.

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:31 pm

Ken

The shot is pretty hazy and grainy all over the place. I think it doesn´t stand a chance, no matter what you do. The haze and blurriness in some parts will be very difficult to correct.
Try to concentrate your efforts on other shots if you can. You could learn a lot from good weather shots as well.

Good luck!  Smile

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:33 pm

Hi Ken, I'm affraid this is a no hoper. You main problems look like they come from original camera settings. You have used ISO400 - try ISO100 or less, this will generate the least amount of noise. Shot in aperture mode and anywhere F8 - F10 should be fine giving you a shutter speed of around 1/200. That should not be a problem at that focal lenth of 120mm.

Of course shooting into the sun as you are there will tend to underexpose your shot so it might be wise to shoot in RAW if you are not confident about getting the exposure right straight out of the camera and do your compensation in post processing.

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:07 am

Thank you all for your advice. It is appreciated.

Quoting Jid (Reply 4):
You have used ISO400 - try ISO100 or less

Yes Jid, looking back, I found that I accidentally took a batch of shots at ISO 400. That was a costly mistake because I had to throw out many great shots I took at LCY in Sept 2006.

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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:25 am

Hi Ken,
there's no hope for this image, shooting into the Sun in hazy conditions doesn't help it. I played with the curves a little bit, got rid of the haze but the quality just isn't there. I'd keep it for my personal collection.
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RE: Editing Help Needed!

Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:18 am

Thanks Ivan. I appreciate your effort and help. I feel good that I tried my best with this shot. Your result is similar to mine. I agree with you that it is time to move on to the next challenging shot.

Thanks my friend.

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