fergulmcc
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Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:46 am

Hi All  wave 

Can anyone recommend to me some software that I can use to design and build my own photography website? I don’t mind paying a bit for the software as long as I know that I am getting value for money. I have done some searching and saw, ‘Web Studio 4.0’ but not sure what it’s like nor can I find an outlet for that software here in the EU. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, bear in mind that I have never designed a site before.
I have my own domain name and site hoster. They have some templates but I am not too happy with them so would like to get something better.

Many thanks

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:03 am

I'm only just starting experimenting with it, but MS Visual Studio web developer Express is free to download.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

Makes some sense if you've used a visual programming language before, otherwise a bit of a learning cliff to get over.
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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:03 am

I've always used Microsoft FrontPage, but great tools are also Macromedia Flash, Macromedia Fireworks and Dreamweaver as well...It all depends on what kind of image would you like to give to the entire website. You can always buy a template (use google to search) and fill it with your own texts and images. This is a very cheap and simple solution...

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:14 am

I used MS Frontpage, but switched now to Dreamweaver, which I can only recommend. It's not free, but good.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:20 am

Quoting LIPH (Reply 2):
I've always used Microsoft FrontPage, but great tools are also Macromedia Flash, Macromedia Fireworks and Dreamweaver as well...

Agreed on all points. But if you're new to web design, use FrontPage to get started. It's laid out like all the other office tools so it'll make sense to you quickly. As you get better at it, and if you want to spend more time on it, then look into Macromedia Dreamweaver or Adobe GoLive (you already own the latter if you own CS2).

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:46 am

Macromedia Dreamweaver 8.0 is the best, in my opinion, for novice users creating websites!

cheers

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:16 am

Thanks all!!  bigthumbsup 

Very much appreciated, Big grin

I'll let you know how I get on.

Take care

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:32 am

Hi Fergul, I use Dreamweaver as well and can recommend it totally.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:09 am

Quoting Jid (Reply 7):
Hi Fergul, I use Dreamweaver as well and can recommend it totally.

Cheers Jid!  Smile

You well these days? Thinking of making a trip over to MAN sometime in April to meet up with Paul.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:20 am

Sorry guys...not actually an "aviation photography" thread...!

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:41 am

Quoting LIPH (Reply 9):
Sorry guys...not actually an "aviation photography" thread...

Well I do plan to put some of my aviation photos that didn't quite make it onto A.net on the site as well.  Smile

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:55 am

Quoting LIPH (Reply 2):
but great tools are also Macromedia Flash, Macromedia Fireworks and Dreamweaver as well...

You can get Macromedia Studio 8 which contains these three plus more. Flash, Fireworks and Dreamweaver all have Tutorials so you can get an idea of what these applications are capable of rather easily. I started using Fireworks 8 Professional again this week after having worked with Fireworks MX a while ago, and I really like it. Rather pricy IMO however.

Quoting LIPH (Reply 9):
Sorry guys...not actually an "aviation photography" thread...!

And who exactly are you again?  confused 


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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:36 am

i would recommend dreanweaver.

i program in PHP & MySQL and it gives a great basis for a photography site.
if you are going for PHP and MySQL, double check your webhost supports these file formats.

www.phpbuilder.com / www.phpfreaks.com
are great places to start to learn how to use both of the web languages, and i would recommend buying a book about the current web standards (spoken from experience :p)

have just put a photography site together with one of my mates down this way.
www.saphotography.co.uk has got alot of the php stuff in it, and the whole backend is in a db.

if you need a hand or any code snippets for the site, just give me a shout.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:33 pm

Yeah Fergul i would reccomend Dreamweaver, i have it but dont know how to use it yet! I was told it's the best one to use so i bought it with the intention of making a site, havnt had the time to learn it yet tho so i can't comment on ease of use. Now i know Jid know's how to use it tho... i'll have to bombard him with questions! lol

Hows things over there with you?

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:06 pm

Thanks again all for the help on the software front, very much appreciated!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 13):
Hows things over there with you

Doing well Chris, had not of an opertunity to pull out the 500/4 lately, only got back from Canon the other day but there is the Galway Air Show in June this summer with the Red Arrows and the USAF Thunderbirds displaying, so I hope to put it to some good use then.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:25 am

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 14):
not of an opertunity to pull out the 500/4 lately, only got back from Canon the other day

Back from Canon? Hope nothing too major was wrong with it?

If you come over to the UK any time soon let me know, im planning to go to MAN with a friend soon so if your over i can try and pop up that weekend!

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:14 am

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 15):
Back from Canon? Hope nothing too major was wrong with it?

Nothing major Chris just some dirt was on one of the focusing elements and I wasn't ahppy so I sent it back to Canon as it was still under warranty. Seems ok Now.

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 15):
If you come over to the UK any time soon let me know, im planning to go to MAN with a friend soon so if your over i can try and pop up that weekend!

Must have read my mind Chris as I am planning to visit Paul and Jid some weekend in April probably the 7th, you up for that? Big grin But I'm sure I can be persuaded to head over earlier if you're heading there soon.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 16):

Must have read my mind Chris as I am planning to visit Paul and Jid some weekend in April probably the 7th, you up for that? Big grin But I'm sure I can be persuaded to head over earlier if you're heading there soon.

Take care

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Ahhh im snowboarding in Austria from the 2nd-8th unfortunatly. I get back on the sunday and then the following weekend im in Iceland! lol. No worries mate. Ill have to come over to the little island you call home at some point!  Wink you can show me about and i'll show you how to use the 500 properly! lol

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:26 pm

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 17):
Ill have to come over to the little island you call home at some point! you can show me about and i'll show you how to use the 500 properly! lol

It will be a pleasure Chris, but one question, are you strong enough to hold a 500!!! LOL
I can't make the 7th anyway.
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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:44 pm

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 18):
It will be a pleasure Chris, but one question, are you strong enough to hold a 500!!! LOL

Strong enough.... im a student! i spend about 68% of mylife picking up pint glasses or pool cues!  Wink

I shot with a 500 at FAB last year and it was fine! Even with a duff IS unit! GRRRR

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:19 am

My Recomendations:

1. Easiest: FrontPage 2003. It has come a long way since FrontPage97 and at last it is something you can count on, but still not as powerful and as flexible as Dreamweaver. Cheaper though. Current version: 2003, and has been replaced by teh Expression Web Designer.

2. Robustness, Flexibility, Power: Dreamweaver. It is also more expensive, but comes very nice if you're getting the whole suite The current version is the release 8. Comes with Adobe Creative Suite CS2 with Studio8.

3. Limitless: Adobe (former Macromedia) Flex! That is a powerful stuff! But you need to get into the books, since programming is needed here. It aint that hard. EXPENSIVE!

4. Flexible, Easy, Free, Powerful, can use programming, etc: Content Management Systems (CMS). It is installed in the hosting server. Its free, and you just need to type your stuff and add pictures on a template. Templates are available for pay and for free on the web. Your site will look even, neat, and depending on the template, will look great. If you know code (php), you can even design your own template and do whatever you want without spending a penny. Good ones: Mambo and/or Joomla. They need a MySQL database and PHP support from your web hosting company.
 
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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:02 pm

Fergul,

Consider learning a bit of basic HTML; not for absolute page design, but so you can see and understanding what your web-authoring software is parsing into HTML in the event it doesn't look quite right.

It may be worth enrolling on a short graphics course at a college; you can learn a lot about design aesthetics - it's all useful.


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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Quoting Sulman (Reply 21):
Consider learning a bit of basic HTML; not for absolute page design, but so you can see and understanding what your web-authoring software is parsing into HTML in the event it doesn't look quite right.

Definitely! I use FrontPage and it occassionally "tweaks" a table border or hyperlink, so you'll want to know basic HTML for troubleshooting. One of FrontPage's favourite foibles is that it inserts absolute references (the complete hyperlink). Since you build the site on your computer first, all those references point to your hard drive. But sometimes it doesn't change them properly when you publish. So you can see all the links (since they're on your hard drive) but nobody else can (since their computers can not see your hard drive). You won't even know about the problem unless someone complains, you look at your site from a different computer, or you go through the site line-by-line and find the error.

Don't get me wrong, it's only an occassional glitch and, overall, FP is very easy to use.

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:47 am

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 19):
pool cues



Quoting Sulman (Reply 21):
It may be worth enrolling on a short graphics course at a college; you can learn a lot about design aesthetics - it's all useful.

Something I have considered James and I am looking into it. Cheers!  Smile

Thankyou James Regu and Calgary and everybody elso who chiped in. I have something to go on now and I'll read up more on classes and books etc. Just on a side note, can you recomend a good book on HTML. I was looking at Dreamweaver 8 for Dummies, anyone got that.

Once again, very much appreciate all the help,  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:18 am

Finished my site, all done with Macromedia Dreamweaver 8.0

www.jet-a1images.com

cheers

Nick
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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:55 pm

Quoting Draigonair (Reply 24):
Finished my site, all done with Macromedia Dreamweaver 8.0

Some very nice work there Nick! Some good shots too!  bigthumbsup 

Thanks and take care

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:33 am

Thanks mate, as you see not just aviation offcourse!

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:06 am

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RE: Web Design Software - Advice Needed

Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:19 am

I use NetObjects Fusion 9.0 for my site:

www.lockonaviation.net

Trying to move to a fully database driven site, but as much as I like emacs (I'm and old UNIX guy), I'll probably stick with NetObjects Fusion for the front end and good 'ol PHP for the back end.

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