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I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:59 pm

Hi everyone, I would appreciate opinions on this one. My monitor is a disgrace so I see everything darker than what it is and also my PS skills are very limited so if you give advice treat me like I'm a 10-year old  Wink
Thanx in advance!  Smile

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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:16 pm

Unfortunately you have some significant problems with this shot that will mean it will be easily rejected by the screeners.

One of the first issues, apparent without opening up the shot, is that the centring of the aircraft is not correct for A.net. The aircraft sits too far to the right in the frame, with the tip of the right wing (as we look) a lot nearer the edge of the picture than the left. These distances would need to be roughly the same.

Once the photo is opened up to full size quality issues are apparent. Although the photo does not have the sharpness required, it is the quality of the image that will make this an easy decision for the screeners. This is very obvious on the underside, where there are a lot of editing artifacts apparent (like blotchy jpeg compression) - which look to me similar to those you get when too much noise reduction is used. So much so that the rear edge of the wings is becoming indistinct, and the lack of sharpness in those two navigation lights at the ends of the wings are just not sharp. Another good example of a problem is the front of the port engine (in sunshine) - this is soft/blurry, whereas the leading edge of the wing in sunshine is jagged.

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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:01 pm

Hy Eze,
well, first of alla as Paul said you need to crop closer to the aicraft and better centre the aircraft in the frame.
Said that, I must tell you that quality is not there : the shot looks blurry, with a lot of grain and very soft in certain areas with lots of jpeg artifact as Paul mentioned. You should try to let us see the non-edited version of it...
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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:01 pm

Hola!

As both have said, the edit itself is of no use, neither for uploading nor for discussing here as the editing has destroyed most of its detail. Just post the original and we will "treat you like a 10-year old"!  Wink
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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:49 am

Thanx for the replies. As I said, I am very very bad with PS, and from your replies, you saw that without even opening the full size pic! Here is thumbnail of the original. All tips are more than welcome  Smile


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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:56 am

Hola denuevo!

Now we are talking. I can see you are using a Panasonic DMC-TZ1. I have never seen an original picture taken by it, so I will just assume that this is the best quality you can get from this camera (you have selected highest possible quality in camera?).
Just from looking at the original file and without any editing I would assume this one will not make it - just too low overall quality. Nevertheless, I had a try at editing, and this is the result (not even close to A.net standard):
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 444kb

Edit was as follows (all in different layers):
- Resize to 1024x768 to better suit the motive. Centered so as to have as little as possible space on top/below, and equal space on both sides of the wings.
- Removed dust spots by equalizing a layer, then using clone stamp tool (one on the right side).
- Adjusted levels (image was underexposed).
- Selected sky only, applied noise reduction (would not do that for an image for A.net, but yours is just way too grainy).
- Inverse selection to select plane only
- Adjusted saturation (increased slightly) and contrast (increased slightly).
- Corrected a slight blue color cast.
- Applied some noise reduction to the plane only (again only for this one).
- Sharpened using smart sharpening (50%)
- Saved with highest quality settings.
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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:35 pm

Hola!

Quoting Acontador (Reply 5):
so I will just assume that this is the best quality you can get from this camera (you have selected highest possible quality in camera?).

yes, highest quality settings possible

Quoting Acontador (Reply 5):
just too low overall quality

first of all, gracias for the detailed explanation of your edit and btw it looks much better than mine  Wink
But the question is why is it too low overall quality? What settings should I use for a shot like that? I just can't figure out what I do wrong. I have 7 pics here on a.net but they are all from aircraft on the ground, and I really want to have one of a plane doing what it was built for: flying!
The editing is a whole other story, but I'd love to have the photography skills too.

in any case, once again, mil gracias por la ayuda!
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RE: I Never Do This But ... Opinions For This One?

Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:29 pm

Hola,

Make really sure you have the camera set at highest possible file size and quality. If you want to try your luck with moving airplanes, try first side on shots (belly shots like this one are more difficult) with the sun on your back and when the aircraft is almost perfectly side-on (so that almost all of the object is at same focus distance). Try to find the sweet spot on your camera/lens combo (what is the f number/shutter speed/ISO setting/focal length combo that gives best results) and stick to it (probably useful only on sunny days). I have seen from non-DSLR cameras that the quality of the images varies tremendously with the focal length used. And finally let's see the results! Big grin
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