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Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:22 pm

I would like some input on the following shot.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../ready/N368733wSANmarch102007a.jpg

How does it look? Also, does the fact that the flaps were being set causing motion blur during the long exposure eliminate any possibility of acceptance?

Thanks.
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:00 pm

Id say it looks abit soft and possible very soft/blurry around nose.
 
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:16 am

Hmm...thanks. I'll wait for more input.

Anyone else??
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:33 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Thread starter):
Also, does the fact that the flaps were being set causing motion blur during the long exposure eliminate any possibility of acceptance?

Hy Silver, no, this is not the case...

Quoting Silver1SWA (Thread starter):
How does it look?

Light is ok, crop ok, but it looks a bit blurry to me...

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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:43 am

Mark's right; the picture looks overall soft, especially the engine nacelle and nose area. Might be saveable depending on the original. I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:04 pm

Hello again Ryan.

That is an excellent photo you have there - lovely colours and overall quality.

I would agree that the blur of the flaps isn't an issue at all for me - rather, it actually enhances the image, giving a visual description of the 'activity' of the moment. But I do feel the edit does have areas of slight softness which may focus the screeners' eye. Key areas are the engine cowling, cabin windows, flightdeck area and the forward thin yellow stripe.

I would hope that can be improved in editing - if you would like me to have a go with the original feel free to get in touch.

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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:20 pm

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
Mark's right; the picture looks overall soft, especially the engine nacelle and nose area.



Quoting Psych (Reply 5):
But I do feel the edit does have areas of slight softness which may focus the screeners' eye. Key areas are the engine cowling, cabin windows, flightdeck area and the forward thin yellow stripe.

How does this edit look? I just gave an extra punch of sharpening to the same file. Thought I would try that before doing a completely new edit. Any better?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...er1SWA/N368733wSANmarch102007b.jpg

Quoting LIPH (Reply 3):
but it looks a bit blurry to me...

Well, I didn't use a tripod. I just propped it up on a belt-loader. LOL This was the sharpest of the series of 3 that I took, so I thought I'd give it a try here.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

10.0 sec, f/8, ISO 100.

[Edited 2007-03-12 10:22:48]
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:39 pm

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):
How does this edit look? I just gave an extra punch of sharpening to the same file. Thought I would try that before doing a completely new edit. Any better?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...b.jpg

2nd one looks better.
 
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:47 pm

Thanks. However, I decided to do another edit anyway, this time I tried for a larger size. I want to say it came out a little better as a larger picture. Am I mistaken?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...A/N368733wSANmarch102007large3.jpg
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:22 pm

Larger one (last edit) looks quite ok; a little more selective sharpening along the passenger windows and nose section and you should be ok.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):
Quoting ThierryD (Reply 4):
I'd be very interested in knowing your camera settings for this shot.

10.0 sec, f/8, ISO 100

Your settings confirm my suspicion of a high aperture; next time try f/11 or even higher if you have the necessary time as this will render the light sources much nicer.
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 9):
Your settings confirm my suspicion of a high aperture; next time try f/11 or even higher if you have the necessary time as this will render the light sources much nicer.

Thank you. I'll give it a try tonight.
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:11 am

Alrighty, here is my new uploaded version. Final thoughts before I leave it in the hands of the screeners? Thanks.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/N368733wSANmarch102007large5.jpg
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:37 am

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 11):
Final thoughts

It's too grainy. Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?
 
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:18 am

Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
It's too grainy.

I agree.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?

I agree.
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RE: Opinions On This Night Shot Please.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting EK20 (Reply 12):
It's too grainy. Why don't you at least reduce the image size to 1024 pixels?



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 13):
I agree.

Because,

1. after trying 1024 (see my first two edits), I thought it came out well as a larger picture. Sometimes, when reducing all the way down to 1024, jaggies appear before sharpening is applied. This makes it difficult to sharpen the image enough without getting jaggies. I felt it was a reason why my first try was so soft.

and,

2. I took this as an indication the larger size would be ok...

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 9):
Larger one (last edit) looks quite ok; a little more selective sharpening along the passenger windows and nose section and you should be ok.

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Anyway, I have about 3 edits in this thread already. Can I get a poll indicating which one I should upload?? lol

Thanks.
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