LIPH
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Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:22 pm

Hy there,
would like to try to challenge myself with a few panning shots. Can you suggest an average "time/sec" setting to have good results during a sunny day light conditions and landings/take-offs scenes ? Thanks in advance.

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:29 pm

All depends on how good your panning technique is...

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This was shot at [ISO 100 - F8 - 1/60 - 70mm]
In good sunlight be careful not to overexpose.

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:59 pm

I'm not an expert with panning shots. This one was taken with 1/100sec. / ISO100 / F14 / Exposure correction: -2/3


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Edit: Taken with a Canon EF 75-300 without Imagestabilizer, if you have IS you might experience less
problems with camerashake.

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:30 pm

Thanks for input guys,
actually I'll shoot with my Canon 100-400 IS, so, yes, probably I'll have less problems with camera shake, even if the 100-400 is a bit heavy to hold ! Browsing the database I've noted various timing for panning shot : some of them are even shoot at 1/15-1/25...This will be a real challenge !

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:51 pm

Quoting LIPH (Reply 3):
Browsing the database I've noted various timing for panning shot : some of them are even shoot at 1/15-1/25...This will be a real challenge !

Give me your 100-400 IS (i'm still saving money for it) and than the panning party beginns  smile 

I wish you the best of luck for your shots!

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:16 pm

Quoting ThomasW1974 (Reply 4):
Give me your 100-400 IS (i'm still saving money for it) and than the panning party beginns

Yeah, of course with IS everything is possibel and very easy ....  Wow!

Believe me LIPH it takes some practice .... even with IS.

Be sure that you have something coloured/contrast in back , try to follow the a/c closely, normally the sideons turn out the most unblurryed - best quality .....

One of my personal favs with 1/25th F36 ISO100 -0.3 (watch out not to overexpose the image ...)


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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:03 pm

I agree that for most of us humans (leaving aside the Javier's of this world) panning is a real challenge, even with the back-up of IS.

Probably my best effort was this shot:

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This was taken at 1/40th (no IS, so it is possible at that speed). I usually shoot in Aperture Priority, but here it is obviously best to choose your preferred shutter speed and let the camera do the rest. But, depending on the brightness, you may end up with a very small aperture, which can start to impact on overall quality (depending on your lens).

My only other comment would be to ensure you press the shutter when the aircraft is directly in front of you (perpendicular to its line of travel), otherwise you get into this issue of the front travelling faster than the rear (relative to you) - or vice versa - which means you may catch part of the aircraft perfectly, but another part is slightly blurred.

Best of luck.

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:58 pm

Quoting Rotate (Reply 5):
with IS everything is possibel and very easy ....

According to my first attempts, well, not really !  Wink

Quoting Rotate (Reply 5):
try to follow the a/c closely

Mmm, could you explain better what you mean ?

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
(leaving aside the Javier's of this world) panning is a real challenge

Yeah, Paul, Javier has probably the most stunning panning collection of A.net....

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
My only other comment would be to ensure you press the shutter when the aircraft is directly in front of you

This is new to me...Isn't this much more difficult "to follow" with your camera once the aircraft has passed the perpendicular line ?

Thanks to all for imput.

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RE: Time For Panning

Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:43 pm

Just adding two things I don't see addressed above:

- the length of lens you're using: the longer the lens, the faster the shutter speed you can use and still get noticeable panning. With a wider lens you'll need a slower speed to show the pan.

- how close you are to the subject. The closer you are, the faster the background will appear to move relative to the subject.

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RE: Time For Panning

Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:13 am

Take your tripod with you....makes it all easier to a certain degree.

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RE: Time For Panning

Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:10 am

Quoting INNflight (Reply 9):
Take your tripod with you....makes it all easier to a certain degree.

Any chance you use a Wimbley? I use a monopod, but I see a few Wimbleys kicking around at airshows and am wondering if they work for aviation?

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RE: Time For Panning

Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:14 am

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 10):
Any chance you use a Wimbley?

Hi, unfortunately not, I use a Manfrotto 055pro.

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RE: Time For Panning

Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
leaving aside the Javier's of this world

I think he doing it on purpose  Smile (just to make us jealous...  Smile

Another great panning shot of Javier:


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Congrats again, Javier! (I would be very happy if I could make that shot at 1/250 s...  ashamed  ...)

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RE: Time For Panning

Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:11 am

This was taken with in-built IS on the Pentax K10D...

Settings I think were 1/60th ISO100 -1.0 f19. But try your own settings. I think with panning its best to practice in low light where low shutter speeds are required. That way you can work out what works and what doesn't.


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