flipdewaf
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Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:54 am

i had this photo rejected because of quality and contrast. please could somone help me with the editing with this one. i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/....main?filename=20070317_co7521.jpg

Thanks

Fred
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OlegShv
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:21 am

Fred,

I doubt you can salvage this one. It looks like the quality is just not there. This could be due to many different reasons. One possibility is that the aircraft was just too far. Make sure that when you shoot you use set your camera for "fine" quality jpeg, or try shooting raw. Also, if you have not done so already, go through the photoshop workflow posted on this site.

Regards,

Oleg.
 
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:32 am

Quoting Flipdewaf (Thread starter):
i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

You can't. It's toast right out of the camera. Look at it.....why do you think the camera blew the exposure as bad as it did? Figure that out, (it's not too difficult) and you won't make that mistake again. Telling you the reason won't help you as much as you figuring it out by your self.
 
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:07 pm

Quoting Flipdewaf (Thread starter):
i had this photo rejected because of quality and contrast. please could somone help me with the editing with this one. i use photoshop 7 but im not quite sure how i can improve it.

Hey Fred,

Look, honestly I doubt its chance but if you'd like to send me the original I can have a play with it. Just looking at the settings for the shot, it is apparent that they are completely wrong but send it anyway. I might be able to make it so it looks ok for personal use.

Regards, and welcome to the forums.

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flipdewaf
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:20 pm

here is the original file.
Big version: Width: 3008 Height: 2000 File size: 1853kb


should my aperture be smaller and with a longer shutter shutter?

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EGBJ
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:38 pm

My attempt...

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 627 File size: 140kb


Probably not up to a.net standards but an improvement anyway.  Smile
 
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:10 pm

I had a brief go at improving the pic as well, but I can't really do anything better than EGBJ. I think the photo is probably too far gone to ever make it here. I see in the Exif data that you used manual mode with pattern metering. Not that I'm an expert, but a lot of guys on here like to use centre weighted metering. Also unless you have a handheld light meter it can be awfully tricky to get a nice exposure using manual settings.
Like JeffM said you just have to play with the camera and get a handle on the different settings and find something that works for you.
Personally I use pattern metering, but I have a different camera than you do so the "brain" in the camera probably calculates things differently to yours. I also usually shoot using "P" or programmed auto mode and when using a longer focal length I usually bump the exposure comp. by at least a half stop sometimes a full one depending on conditions and the results I'm getting.
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JeffM
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:20 pm

Quoting AvroArrow (Reply 6):
I see in the Exif data that you used manual mode with pattern metering.

Metering mode has no impact on Manual. Unless you are making the mistake of using it to judge your exposure.
 
flipdewaf
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:31 pm

this one wasnt worth trying either then?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/easy7373.jpg

thanks for the help guys, il just keep practising

Fred
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LIPH
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:11 pm

Quoting Flipdewaf (Reply 8):
this one wasnt worth trying either then?

No Fred,  Sad
it's very blurry, as the 757 was. Here you have also an odd colorcast...What you shoot with ?

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flipdewaf
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:22 pm

i have a nikon D40, i have only had it for 2 weeks so i will just keep practising and getting help from people on here. 99% of the people on here seem to be willing to help and it all seems very nice. i will post some of my other pictures and maybe people will be able to tell if there is somthing i am doing wrong everytime.

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flipdewaf
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:28 pm

this one has soft nose
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1237/easy3193tp7.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6725/xl7374jw3.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3343/easy7372uw3.jpg

is there somthing obvious that i am doing wrong in these? or is it just more practice.

Fred
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:43 am

Quoting Flipdewaf (Reply 11):
or is it just more practice.

Practice, practice! Get to know your camera well, it took me 5 months between first getting my Canon Powershot S2 IS and getting my first A.net acceptance... Editing skills make all the difference as well.
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flipdewaf
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:21 am

It takes me a long time to get to the airport as it is a bit of a trek on the public transport so practising on planes isnt that easy, i try to go down to the railway and practice on the High speed trains ,is that a good idea? i do go out and just shoot random things alot as well.

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monteycarlos
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:26 pm

Personally I think mine looks relatively similar to EGBJ's version so I will not post it.

Do you mind if I ask about the settings you used, and what lens you shot with?
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jajo
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RE: Help With Editing For A Rejection

Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:45 pm

I gave it a quick try, not up to a.net but better...

Big version: Width: 1100 Height: 747 File size: 541kb


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