TruemanQLD
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Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:47 pm

Will it be accepted if I crop it a little bit? Or should I get a better camera?
 
monteycarlos
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:52 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Thread starter):
Will it be accepted if I crop it a little bit? Or should I get a better camera?

You'll find a lot of people here are shooting digital SLR's with a minimum of 8 megapixels. Re-sizing should only really occur in post image editing. It will be very rare to shoot low-res on a camera and not have to crop and resize.
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:00 pm

The number of Mega's does not say anything about the camera's quality, this is a wide spread misunderstanding.
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:05 pm

Quoting TruemanQLD (Thread starter):
Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

That's the same as asking "how long is a piece of string?"

It depends on how good you are, how good the camera is and how good you are at editing. It's a $64 000 question. But there's no reason why not. I have over 200 pics on here with a 5Mp camera.

Post some examples.

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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:12 pm

To make things clearer, a 3.2 MP DSLR probably produces better files than a 6 or 8 MP point and shoot.

I can't tell how well you know about camera so here's some info:

DSLR: those cameras that you can change the lenses.

Point and Ssoot: fixed lens, usually small that fits in your pocket. Could zoom well according to model.

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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:00 am

Quoting EK20 (Reply 3):
It depends on how good you are, how good the camera is and how good you are at editing. It's a $64 000 question. But there's no reason why not. I have over 200 pics on here with a 5Mp camera.

In addition to some of the good advice above, I'd add that the quality of the lens is probably more important than the number of megapixels.

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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 5):
In addition to some of the good advice above, I'd add that the quality of the lens is probably more important than the number of megapixels.

Exactly. That's why I'm considering obtaining a Canon 350D (8MP) instead of a new 400D (10MP). The money saved can be used for better quality lenses, which are more important than the number of megapixels.

That being said, I have several shots in the database with a mediocre 4MP camera and a few taken with a (downright crappy) 3MP model. If you focus on proper lighting and fill the whole frame with the aircraft, I don't see how a 5.1MP camera can't produce A.net-quality images. After all, the typical image size that is uploaded to the site (after editing) is only about 1 MP or so in most cases.

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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:20 am

Quoting EK20 (Reply 3):
That's the same as asking "how long is a piece of string?"

It depends on how good you are, how good the camera is and how good you are at editing. It's a $64 000 question. But there's no reason why not. I have over 200 pics on here with a 5Mp camera.

I have 36... I'm newer, but my model is 5.0 MP and the difference for me has been EDITING. I have to stress that editing skill is the most important factor.

Quoting N243NW (Reply 6):
I don't see how a 5.1MP camera can't produce A.net-quality images. After all, the typical image size that is uploaded to the site (after editing) is only about 1 MP or so in most cases.

A 5.1 MP camera can produce A.net images... It's all about your personal skills.
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monteycarlos
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:30 am

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 5):
In addition to some of the good advice above, I'd add that the quality of the lens is probably more important than the number of megapixels.

I'd agree. Even with a point and shoot you need a good lens. Some of the Sony's come with a Carl Zeiss lens which generally gives a lot better images than the same model which doesn't have that lens.

Quoting N243NW (Reply 6):
If you focus on proper lighting and fill the whole frame with the aircraft, I don't see how a 5.1MP camera can't produce A.net-quality images.

Depends... Try filling the frame with an aircraft on a 5.1mp point and shoot, with the aircraft moving at 150knots. I'll tell you now that its not going to be that easy. If you have good airside access its a different story.

Quoting San747 (Reply 7):
I have 36... I'm newer, but my model is 5.0 MP and the difference for me has been EDITING. I have to stress that editing skill is the most important factor.

Again, I would agree. Learning a workflow and how to brush up an image is important in any kind of photography. It would be very rare to see an image make the DB straight from the camera.

Quoting San747 (Reply 7):
It's all about your personal skills.

Its also about what you do with the camera when you take the shot too though. IMO, thats the most important part. If you get as much stuff right when you release the shutter, then it makes the image editing process that much easier.
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:51 am

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 8):
Depends... Try filling the frame with an aircraft on a 5.1mp point and shoot, with the aircraft moving at 150knots. I'll tell you now that its not going to be that easy. If you have good airside access its a different story.

I don't think it's a function of pixels, it's about what lens the camera has. My old Canon G2 (4 megapixels) did a respectable job with it's little 105mm equivalent, but like you say, you pretty much need airside access at my airport to get close enough. A friends Lumix with 5 megapixels and over 300mm equivalent had the reach to get shots from farther away, and it was still just a point-n-shoot.

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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:08 am

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 9):
A friends Lumix with 5 megapixels and over 300mm equivalent had the reach to get shots from farther away, and it was still just a point-n-shoot.

How was its noise reduction? Thats what I have found with most point and shoot cameras is that they can get close enough and a good shot but it turns out a little too grainy due to the compact build. The Lumix is a decent camera though.
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:00 am

Take a look at my pics in the database:

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?front=yes&s=1&keywords=Willson+Moss

All 51 of these are taken with my Canon Powershot A610, a 5 mega-pixel camera with 4x zoom. As stated above, you certainly don't need a high-mega-pixel camera to produce A.net quality pics. I'm hoping to get something along the lines of a Canon Digital Rebel or 350D soon though. You probably won't have too much success with moving targets with your point and shoot, just because of the way the settings are and because of the built-in lens.
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:20 am

Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 11):
All 51 of these are taken with my Canon Powershot A610, a 5 mega-pixel camera with 4x zoom. As stated above, you certainly don't need a high-mega-pixel camera to produce A.net quality pics.

Agreed, and your shots are excellent btw. But I think for TruemanQLD, his hope of not having to crop will most certainly be a very tough prospect. Any kind of hope of taking good ground to air pics with a point and shoot is also going to be very tough.
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CalgaryBill
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RE: Is 5.1 Megapixles Camera Good?

Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:51 pm

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 10):

How was its noise reduction? Thats what I have found with most point and shoot cameras is that they can get close enough and a good shot but it turns out a little too grainy due to the compact build. The Lumix is a decent camera though.

I was pretty impressed, but I only saw samples of daytime and low light images. He never showed me anything shot at night. His Lumix and my D100 came out around the same time and I'd say they were close. One thing that really stood out was that, with the default settings, his did a way better job capturing blue tones in the sky, mine seemed to make bright colours like flowers pop more.

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