topgun3
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Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:01 pm

My pet peeve is the fact that in the last few days who ever screens my photos started removing my TIME info that I include with every picture I upload (over 880 pics so far). The reason why I do it is because it gives people better idea about the conditions (ie. lighting) at that time of day. Another useful feature is the ability to track the flight for anyone who would be interested. I had many people contact me saying it was a good idea to include the time.

I wouldn't bother including this info in the remark if Airliners.net didn't strip the EXIF info from the pictures, where such info would be available.

I would like to see what other A.net contributors/screeners think. I would love to include that info in the future, but I'm not going to fight it if the opinion is decidedly against it. I don't see anything in the rules about not having a time stamp.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:41 pm

I think it is a great idea to include a time stamp Mark. I can't see any reason for it's removal either.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:16 am

I always thought it was kinda silly to include it, but there are some photographers around here that do a lot worse. You should be able to include it if you want to include it. Your photos are still good!

[Edited 2007-06-15 17:20:32]
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:43 am

I'd love to see an option to show EXIF. Kinda like now we can choose to allow/disallow comments.
Besides time, it also shows camera model, shutter speed, etc
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:02 am

Mark,

The biggest reason those comments have been deleted is that, at least in the past, there have been huge errors in your data. Several months ago you uploaded a couple of images, you had the same date, and the time was within an hour of each other. One image was a winter wonderland, the next image there was no snow, and the tarmac was bone dry. I don't think that several inches of snow can melt away during an hour of winter sunlight, and not leave any moisture on the ground.
 
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):

Haha. Personally, I don't think the time matters, as long as you get the day right. You can always mail the photographer and ask if you really want to know.  Smile
 
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:02 am

From the menu under the remark field :-

Do not type any ID number in this field! If you have no remark, leave empty.
Airliners.net reserves the right to edit or add info to this or other fields as we see fit.

Quoting EK20 (Reply 5):
You can always mail the photographer and ask if you really want to know.

Totally agree

I feel that it is unnecessary, certainly not necessary on every image. If it is particularly relevant no-one would object, but come on, every one !
I have deleted it on some when screening. It seems a futile exercise and you also omitted that a personal was left about it....as is my way !
If there is nothing to say aout an image say nothing !

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:19 am

I sometimes add my camera settings especially on panned shots in the format of [1/60 - F8 - ISO400 - @ 100mm]
Should I stop this practice in future or is this ok?


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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:26 am

Jid
I see no harm in that when it is relevant. Most of the time the shutter speed is of little or no interest to anyone but with a panned shot it can be very significant.
My feeling is summed up above really, if there is nothing to say, say just that, nothing. If everyone started adding the exposure information for every shot, that would become another exercise in futility.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:58 am

Thanks for that Mick, that why I only add it in unusual shots.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:41 am

sometime shutter speed can even be funny...like a while back when someone was claiming they "blur the props" at 1/800 of a sec.

Haha. Hopefully that was a typo!
 
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:37 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 10):
sometime shutter speed can even be funny...like a while back when someone was claiming they "blur the props" at 1/800 of a sec.

Errors aside, panning, prop and rotor shots would benefit having the shutter speed included. At least it would reduce all the "my prop shots look like models" threads.  Smile

The only things that would make "time" interesting to me are if the light is really off for that time of day (heavy, intermittent cloud making it look like a different time than it is, or solar eclipse or something similar) or when it's extremely early or late, like the 4 AM sunshine we get in northern latitudes.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:08 pm

Hey clickhappy,
thanks for your input on this matter.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
Several months ago you uploaded a couple of images, you had the same date, and the time was within an hour of each other

Wish I knew which photos you were referring to, therefore I'm not gonna try to defend myself. Could have been a mistake in date, could have been something else. (I guess having the EXIF available would have resolved that problem).

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 6):
I feel that it is unnecessary, certainly not necessary on every image. If it is particularly relevant no-one would object, but come on, every one !

Thanks for your comment. Maybe as screeners you guys are tired of actually reading the remarks....I find empty remark fields very depressing. It almost feels like the uploader didn't care at all about the picture. Everyone is an individual, everyone has their own style. If everyone was the same it would be pretty boring. So far it looks that screeners are against it, majority of non-screeners are indifferent or for it.

Now a little off the topic....just very recently I have started reading and contributing in the forums, and have noticed that some screeners have a tendency to be very negative....maybe it comes with the territory of constantly "rejecting" things. Anyways....just relax and have fun. Don't take this too seriously. It is only pictures. If us, uploaders are suppose to take picture rejections in stride, so should screeners be able to relax about having their decisions questioned.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:59 pm

Quoting TopGun3 (Reply 12):
I find empty remark fields very depressing. It almost feels like the uploader didn't care at all about the picture.

A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:31 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

I do agree with you Viv, but even the 1000 words worth of a picture doesn't tell you some things.

BTW....nice pictures, wish I had some of the planes you see over here  Smile
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:12 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

Captionless photos are senza emotion sometimes, if there's a story to tell, do so  Smile
I think it's nice to read a bit more about the day & scene, the photographer's observations and or opinions on a photo rather than just "landing 23R" captions.

Take care  Smile
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:05 am

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
A picture is worth a thousand words. A good shot should be allowed to speak for itself.

What about adding the comment, "no comment necessary". I want to pull my hair out every time I see that!

If the picture is so great that no comment is needed, why leave a bloody 'no comment' comment!!

(im not saying you do Vivion)
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:12 am

Actually the worst sin is putting the wrong date! One of the more amusing errors was a photograph taken at LHR from The Queen's Building which stated it was "taken" in February. Unfortunately, one could tell from the position of the shadows that it was taken in mid-summer! To have achieved a similar shot in February would have been unlikely given the position of the sun!

NB: I'm not quite sure whether the error has been corrected but don't wish to embarrass the photographer concerned.
 
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RE: Time-of-picture In Remark...Bad Or Good?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 16):
What about adding the comment, "no comment necessary".



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 16):
(im not saying you do Vivion)

Nope, I never did that!
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