Kukkudrill
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Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:03 am

Rejected for motive, under/overexposure and common:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...name=20070615_cpol07_0376_1024.jpg

Any pointers as to why motive? And does it look under/overexposed to you? It looks ok on my monitor.

Thanks,
Charles
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Psych
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:12 am

Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh, though I do see some sharpening issues. Also the front looks sharper than the rear (I am looking around the area of the registration).

Cheers.

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:12 am

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

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Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh

Overall the lighting is poor.
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:08 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
Charles - the motive will be due to that clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

...Seriously?
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:18 pm

Quoting Graphic (Reply 3):
...Seriously?

Yes, the shot is half in and half out in regards to the stab. Generally you need to crop to the tip of the tail or leave in the whole stab, which in this case I would recommend.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Overall the lighting is poor.

I wouldn't go that far, the exposure looks alright, maybe a little bright in the fuselage which can be easily fixed.
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:09 pm

Charles

There is no doubt in my mind the reason for the motive, the crop of the tailplane.
It does look a little overexposed and I would have included colour too. The red is oversaturated

Mick Bajcar

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:25 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
I think an exposure rejection is a bit harsh,

Agreeed

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 2):
Overall the lighting is poor.

How good does it have to be?

Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 4):
the exposure looks alright, maybe a little bright in the fuselage which can be easily fixed.

Yep I agree there.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
The red is oversaturated

Not seen before, and by doing a search, not yet included in the DB, but shot down in flames by very minor flaws?
 
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:46 am

Thanks for the feedback guys. The stab got partly cut off in the original photo, hence the crop, which I suppose makes it not worth attempting a re-edit.

Incidentally SP-LLD is in the db (the common rejection would have been very baffling otherwise).

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:57 am

Quoting Eadster (Reply 6):
How good does it have to be?

Well going by the fact there are 90 shots of this particular AC in the DB it has to be much better.
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:02 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
Well going by the fact there are 90 shots of this particular AC in the DB it has to be much better.

Is that even possible?
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:33 pm

Your hobbies smack talking and aviation photography don't seem to be compatible Eric  Wink
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:45 pm

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 5):
I would have included colour too. The red is oversaturated

Hey Mick, so you're the one who's giving me the oversaturations on my pictures!?
You probably scanned too many old b+w slides and get a color shock everytime you see more than grey tones in a photo.  devil 
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I really like the colors on it that's why I wanted to single them out.

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:06 pm

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 11):
Hey Mick, so you're the one who's giving me the oversaturations on my pictures!?

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No, I have not rejected one of yours that I know of.
We are starting to see a lot of oversaturated images though and that makes us more aware of the problem !

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:47 pm

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 12):
No, I have not rejected one of yours that I know of.
We are starting to see a lot of oversaturated images though and that makes us more aware of the problem !

I see, so it's not coming from too much b+w editing!  Wink
I like strong colors that's why I might be doing too much of it from time to time. I'll restrain myself in the future!  Wink

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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:48 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
clipping of the horizontal stabiliser at the back.

Why not centered then?
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RE: Motive And Exposure

Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:35 pm

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 14):
Why not centered then?

I guess, Peter, they are saying that it is not a case of a complete image being inappropriately placed in a crop, but it is that the image is cropped in a flawed way in their opinion and, as such, has a motive problem.

Cheers.

Paul

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