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walter2222
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Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:29 pm

Hi all,

Would this be acceptable for here? I like the effect of the condensation trail, but it hides part of the aircraft, so that worries me...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...070615_CRW_8562_RT8_WVB_1200px.jpg

Any other comments are of course also welcome!

Thanks for your help,

Walter
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:40 pm

Pretty interesting shot. Unfortunately it is soft...also the cropping doesn't seem to work.....everything is on the right side...should be more centered I think. Geez....now I sound like a screener. Hope that never happens  Wink
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:51 pm

Walter

It would get 'quality', 'grainy', 'motive', 'blurry'.

_Hongyin_
 
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:12 am

Thanks for the feedback!

Would a crop like these work any better?

http://walter2219.fotopic.net/p42318363.html

http://walter2219.fotopic.net/p42319019.html

They probably have the same quality defects, but I would like to understand more about the motive and how to crop such shots correctly?

Thanks and regards,

Walter
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:01 am

Hi,

I have put this one in the queue (my own website has reduced quality):

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...070615_CRW_8520_RT8_WVB_1200px.jpg

Is this any better (crop)? Is sharpness sufficient or not?

Thanks and regards,

Walter
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:52 pm

Nice shot Walter.

The plane looks a bit low in the frame though...so it will probably get a rejection for 'center'. Try to put it more in the center!

cheers

Nick
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:28 pm

Hi Walter!

Hongyin, already gave you the flaws on the 1st picture, so I'll start with N°2:
the F/A-18 shot is soft/blurry and badly centered (either crop closer to the nose or include the right elevator; in addition it's pretty dark.
the Su-22 is a damn fine action shot; the only things that bother me is the lack of colors and darkness though I don't think they will necessarily lead to a rejection; however as Nick already said the centering will (just remove the empty space on top and you should be fine). Also maybe add just a tad more USM.
Those weather conditions are a real nightmare for taking such photos but given the circumstances you did pretty well; sadly it's difficult to get such shots to A.net standard.

Cheers,

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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:09 am

Great shot if you ask me, Walter. eyepopping 

Sinsce that was the lowest approach of the day, did I snap you?

http://www.horizonten.nl/ruw/DSC_0073.jpg

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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:59 am

Hi Nick & Thierry,

Thanks for the hints and comments, I will try a re-edit ASAP!

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 7):
Sinsce that was the lowest approach of the day, did I snap you?

No, I guess not, Peter. I was about right in the centerline. But I gave up after a while, because the weather was not really suited to shoot from there...as Thierry already mentioned, they turn out dark and with a lack of color  Sad anyhow, a nice experiment! Yours is also a nice shot, Peter!

Knowing that my shot was just taken after this one:
http://walter2219.fotopic.net/p42319332.html
... and there was only about 4 seconds between the shots...not so good for my ankles (danger of twisting)!

Best regards,

Walter
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:40 am

Damn, I was there on the Friday and didn't know of you two being there.  

Should've been a Geilenkirchen thread in the forum so the A.netters could know which were A.netters.  


edit: Taking a look at your shots, Walter, I wonder what did go wrong there... Almost all of my shots were sharp and well exposured and the noise wasn't an issue. Used AFAIK most of the time usually M-ISO200-f/8-1/400.

[Edited 2007-06-17 23:45:03]
 
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:42 am

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Damn, I was there on the Friday and didn't know of you two being there.

Neither did I ... but there were more! I met A. Stemmer there (but we exchanged mobile numbers before to make it a little bit easier to meet up). As soon as the shots come out of the queue, we will know who has been there  Smile

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 9):
Taking a look at your shots, Walter, I wonder what did go wrong there...

As I said, for me it was an experiment and I enjoyed it (for the moment it is still too difficult for me and my equipment  Sad ...) but we wanted to try something different... Achim will surely come up with some stunning shots!

Best regards,

Walter
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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:34 pm

Helloo..

I guess you could have got great pics with the right settings. I just learned, unfortunately only, short time ago, about the histogram and good exposure, and the layers and so on in Photoshop, and it has helped me a lot. Now much more photos can be saved, and the noise is not as much of an issue. The blurriness surprised me, I was using the push-pull 28-300L for the first time, and you were using your 100-400L which you have owned for some time I guess... so the blurriness must be bad luck or something. Or what do you think?

I guess I'll not upload all Geilenkirchen shots soon, there's an air-to-air session that has got the priority.  Silly  Smile


Take care,

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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:35 pm


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Congrats, Walter!

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RE: Would This Be Acceptable For Here?

Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:11 am

"sorry pal but you seem to be lost" good pic, and great job on making the database.
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