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My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:22 am

Well I finally got the Camera that I have been watering for the past couple of months. The camera I got is the Canon 1D MarkIII. With it I also got the Canon 580EXII flash, and 2GB 300X card. I've played around with it a little bit, but right now I just need to figure out how I what each setting, there are a lot of settings to adjust, I'm use to the 300D of how simple it is. When I have time I'll post some pictures.
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:44 am

Congratulations with the camera!

If you haven't done it, I'd take a look what Rob Galbraith (www.robgalbraith.com) says about the focussing issues, I'd check it out and then try the focussing as he says the camera has problems with and check if the same thing happens with your body.

And of course we all hope your copy is not faulty.  Smile

Regards,
Davide
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:14 pm

You went from a 300D to a 1D Mark III?
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:18 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
You went from a 300D to a 1D Mark III?

Isnt that kinda like going from a D70 to a D2x?

Hm...
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:52 pm

Quoting Devildog2222 (Thread starter):
just need to figure out how I what each setting

Try reading the manual.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:17 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
You went from a 300D to a 1D Mark III?

Nice!  

Good luck with it. I guess you must be considering a new job as paparazzi? 

[Edited 2007-06-30 09:19:51]
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:38 pm

Nick - congratulations on your purchase I'm sure you will be delighted with it. I got mine last week having waited since February for it.

As the guys have said it's quite a step up from the 300, and certainly not a camera you can use straight out of the box it needs configured to what you shoot.

http://www.eos-forums.com/index.php?topic=13275.0;topicseen

This link is useful as it will show you how some existing users have configured the camera - note there are are so many custom functions to understand. You'll also find several other mk111 discussions on the eos forum so I'd encourage you to have a read.

Please feel free to send me a personal e-mail if you struggle with any of the settings and I'll try to help best I can.

Good luck with it
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:17 pm

Quoting Viv (Reply 4):
Quoting Devildog2222 (Thread starter):
just need to figure out how I what each setting

Try reading the manual.

 rotfl  Also known as RTFM, Big grin

Have fun with it. I have the 1Dn and love it.

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RE: My New Camera MarkIII(with Pics)

Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:12 am

Here are some sample pics. I thought I would try out the B&W mode on the camera.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/devildogg2222/MollyBW1.jpg



[Edited 2007-06-30 23:17:37]
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:14 am

That's one huge upgrade...

Great camera though. Well done on the purchase.
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:38 pm

Hi Nick,

Congratulations!. I will probably buy this toy too (I currently have a 5D), but I wait a bit that the youthful problems are solved. I also heard and read about the focus problem in pre-production bodies. I hope it's solved on the first production products.  Sad http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/4,500-ooo...i-auto+focus-under-heat-271271.php

But it's definitelly a great camera, not only for aviation.
Good luck with it!

Btw: nice looking dog  Wink

Cheers
Patrick
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:20 pm

Quoting Coninpa (Reply 10):
I hope it's solved on the first production products.

Galbraith mentioned that it has not been solved at all on the first production products...

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8740-9006

I'd read this all.
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:57 am

lol why is everyone being a d1ck to homeboy, i'm sure he'll find out if hes got a faulty camera, and whats with telling him to read the manual, I'm sure he's read it front to back 2x. Try being positive and helpful =)

congrats homie, if you dont like it i'll buy it  Wink
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:19 am

Quoting Devildog2222 (Thread starter):
The camera I got is the Canon 1D MarkIII.

Congrats on the camera.....they sure are nice!!! One thing for sure, you'll be getting some great shots!

Phyllis  bouncy 
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:56 pm

Quoting Aitek (Reply 12):
I'm sure he's read it front to back

I admire your faith and blind certainty.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:24 pm

I was going to put a deposite down for one of these today as im visiting the USA in August. But i have serious worries about this AF problem. Even more so as it's main job is going to be Ice Hockey and hence a quick AF is part of the main reason for the upgrade. Im starting to think the cheaper and tested MKiiN would be a safer option. In a perfect world i would wait for the problem to be solved. But as i HAVE to puchase it when im in the states. So that's something i cannot wait around for them to do !!!!.  Sad

I hope this poxy AF problem is not going to screw up my plans.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:48 am

Don't let the AF issue put you off - I had mine out all day Saturday and the AF worked a treat.

The issue probably comes from knowing how to set it up properly, there are several ways to set the Al Servo tracking on it within the custom functions. Like anything new people need to get used to setting it up properly and as I mentioned earlier this is not a camera to use straight out of the box. As you would expect from a very top end pro camera there are some 4 groups of custom functions that need to be understood properly.

The menu is very similar to both the 5D and 30D I already have - I didn't own a MK11 but I understand it's much improved - it's easy to navigate around and use.

I am delighted with mine - it is an amazing camera.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting Garry (Reply 16):
The issue probably comes from knowing how to set it up properly

Wouldn't be so sure about that.

When the guys from Reuters and Action Images etc are returning theirs with issues I think it is more than the individuals set up.

Apparently Canon in Elstree have had numerous examples returned.

The issues have been well documented on Fredmiranda with a couple of good tests carried out showing the problem.

I am number 27 on the list for mine and am quite happy to stay at number 27 at the moment until all of this gets resolved.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:15 pm

I can do without going to Elstree again. I had enough problems with a 300 L lens to last me a lifetime. Im seriously thinking about getting a MK II N rather than the MK III. With the Dollar at the moment i can get one for about £1600.00 And i know its a tried and tested bit of kit with no AF issues !!!!

The MK III is 800.00 more. With the money i save i could upgrade to a new PC which is seriously needed....

I need some help here. What do you guys think i should do. As i said before the kit will mainly be use for low light high speed work (Ice Hockey). Plus aviation when i get the time. Part of me is saying get the MK III as the sensor is superb in low light,with hardly any noise. But can i risk this AF issue and the possible hassle. I just cannot afford to have my main body stuck at Elstree when the season starts !!!!!  Sad
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:27 pm

Simon,

Check out the thread on FM.

Here is the latest update from Rob Galbraith on the subject. http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...ent_page.asp?cid=7-8740-9006#july2

22000 + shots taken with 3 production Mk III's and the autofocus issues are very real.

They have tried numerous different settings for the custom functions and none of them make any difference.

The focus issues are very very real and not as a result of user error, there are just too many people out there reporting the issues for it to be user error many of which are pro's shooting day in day out for a living.

I am sticking to my decision to purchase a Mk III but it won't be until the focusing issues have been resolved and the cameras have been tested in the field.

It seems Canon may have stopped shipping the MK III at the present.

Regards

Simon
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:35 pm

Hey guys...

Same here...upgraded from the 300 to the 1D3 just two weeks ago and currently didnt have lots of time to test it on aviation...however had a product shoot with it just one day after purchase and Ý am absolutely stunned.

Cant comment on the AF issues in bright light yet but im sure they are working hard on it.

Only negative aspect are the files..... had to order another 12gb of CFs Big grin

Take care
F.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:15 pm

Cheers guys.

Looks like something you can get away with if your in the right situation. But quick fast AF for me is CRITICAL , and not something i can have being faulty. It's going to be tough as i really did want the MK III. But as i HAVE to purchase it while on holiday i must purchase it in 6 weeks time. I doubt very much that the problem + new production will be available by then  Sad

Florian can i ask how many photo's are you getting on a 1 GB card in JPEG/Large format.

Cheers
Simon
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:21 am

Simon - this article may help you. I'd draw your attention to the addendum on the very last page.

http://www.andyrouse.co.uk/img/files/1dmk3_1st_review.pdf

Garry
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:32 am

Now i dont know what to do !!!

Some say its poor. Others say it's ok.....
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:49 am

Simon  wave 

It's been a while mate, you well these days??

I can't comment on any of the issues of the 1D MkIII but I can vouch for the 1D MkIIn. It's an animal mate and believe me you won't miss much at 8.5fps. It's stunning and I love it to bits. I was waiting for the 1Dn to be upgraded but eventually I had waited long enough and there was no anouncement so I went for the 1Dn just before Xmas and I am not sorry I did. E-mail me if you want to know more about the 1Dn but really mate, no matter which of the 1D's you get they will be awsome. I hope you make the right decision but saving some money for a PC upgrade is very tempting too. One other thing, just like Flo said, you'll need a good few more CF Cards and no smaller than 2G Big grin

Enjoy!!

Take care

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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:51 pm

Hi Fergul , good to speak to you.

Yes i have been away from A.Net for a while. The Aviation has had to take a back seat as the old Ice Hockey Photography has taken off in quite a big way. Last month i was the exclusive and only photographer allowed in an arena to cover an Ice Hockey Final with over 3000 people present..... No pressure !!!!!! Also doing quite a bit of magazine/paper work again with Ice Hockey. Good fun but hard work at times. Hence often i just need to get my head away from the camera to wind down.. And im afraid the aviation has suffered for it  Sad

Thanks for the comment Fergul. I seriously think im going to go with the MKIIN and save the 800 quid. Can anyone confirm the following.



1) For the 1D MK II N & MK III , how many photo's are you getting on a 1 GB card in JPEG/Large format.

2) Can anyone confirm in percentage terms how much better is the MK III vs the MK II N when it comes to noise at high ISO's like 1600.

Thanks
Simon C
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:11 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 25):
For the 1D MK II N & MK III , how many photo's are you getting on a 1 GB card in JPEG/Large format.

Shooting Raw only Simon, I get about 196 frames on a 2G CF card give or take a few frames. The beauty of the 1Dn and I'm sure of the MkIII is that it will take a second SD Card and you can have all the Raws going to one card and the JPEG's going to another.
You should get about +/-100 frames on a 1G card, in Raw.

Glad to hear that your Hockey photography is going well for you, Good luck with it.

Take care

Fergul  sun 

PS: Just checked my camera and you should get about 269 L JPEG's or 95 Raw images on a 1G
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:17 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 25):
Can anyone confirm in percentage terms how much better is the MK III vs the MK II N when it comes to noise at high ISO's like 1600.

Hi Simon - this is a quote from the Jul - Sept EOS Magazine - 'With the EOS 1D Mk111 Canon has managed to decrese noise levels throughout the ISO range by 50%...' Noise reduction has been done in two ways firstly by improving the signal processing to remove image noise without destroying fine detail, secondly by changing the arrangement and size of the microlenses that focus the light onto the individual pixels. The article concludes that it is possibly the most important new feature of the MK111.

Hope this helps.

You were asking about memory cards, have you thought about getting a portable storage device? I have a 30GB Jobo GIGA One and its excellent for copying a CF card while you're out shooting thus allowing you to re-use the card again and again. It's a lot cheaper than buying even half the equivalent number of memory cards although I read the other day that the per MB cost of a memory card has reduced from 15p to 3p since 2005 - that's 80%.

Garry

[Edited 2007-07-04 13:18:40]
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:36 pm

Quoting Garry (Reply 27):
I read the other day that the per MB cost of a memory card has reduced from 15p to 3p since 2005 - that's 80%

They were selling for £19.99, Sandisk Extreme III 2G, but have just gone up to £24.99, still good value.

http://www.mx2.co.uk/prodpage.asp?type=sub&sub=sancf

Take care

Fergul  sun 

PS Simon, you still looking for a 300/4 LIS?
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:00 pm

Thanks.

No Fergul i dumped the 300 L F4 and got my money back. I ended up with a 400 L f5.6 . What i call my super tube  Smile . And im very happy with it.
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:05 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 21):
Florian can i ask how many photo's are you getting on a 1 GB card in JPEG/Large format.

Hi Simon, I'm currently abroad (on a holiday where you'd not want to lurk around a 1D3) so can't give you the figures right now, but will on Friday afternoon when returning home if you still need them by then.

Canon states that RAW files are approximately 13mb files, however I tend to notice mine usually are 15-16mb, but I so far only have about 1300 shots off the cam and none aviation or sports, so yet have to figure that out.

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 25):
Can anyone confirm in percentage terms how much better is the MK III vs the MK II N when it comes to noise at high ISO's like 1600

No percentages here also, but I was quite fascinated how good the ISO performance is, especially H ( ISO 6400 ) is absolutely mindblowing, I'd say it's similar to ISO 1600 on a 20D...give it some noise reduction afterwards and it's perfectly good for print or other high quality use!
I've zero experience with the 1D2n iso performance of course.

Cheers guys  Smile
Florian
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:28 pm

Have you tried the ISO at 1600 on your MK III. Does it look the same as say ISO 800 on a 20D ???
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:56 pm

Quoting LHRSIMON (Reply 31):
Have you tried the ISO at 1600 on your MK III. Does it look the same as say ISO 800 on a 20D ???

Enough!!!! Enough!!!! Simon!!!! Big grin Just go get the dam Camera mate,  bouncy  You won't look back, no matter what the ISO is!!
Just messing mate, at ISO 1600 the 1Dn is brilliant. i have used ISO 800 a good bit and found it very good. have fun!

Take care

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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:08 am

Despite some negative comments on this forum I can't wait until my name comes up on the list. Overall, it seems most reviews and reports have been positive regarding the 1D Mark III. Oh, and I'm finally upgrading from my ole relic, the 10D.

Gabe
 
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:09 pm

Quoting Gabep (Reply 33):
Despite some negative comments on this forum

I don't thing the posts are intended to be begative about the camera.

The MK III promised to be the ultimate tool for action photography.

If you doubt the issues have a look at the following thread on Fred Miranda where numerous mk III owners have carried out real world results and have experienced the same issues as reported to Canon by Rob Galbraith:-

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/549611
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:23 am

Just in case you still need the figures Simon, I get 64 images on a 1GB card when shooting RAW only.

I think it is definitely true there are AF issues in bright conditions, and I am aware that it seems they have not been present in the post-production models which went into (extensive I guess) testing...so I'm really curious how they turn out to be solved.

Right now I am still stunned by the camera's capabilities, be it with (apparently) AF issues or not. I myself haven't experienced them so far, and just been shooting beachvolleyball for 2hrs. Gotta see  Smile

Cheers guys,
Florian
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RE: My New Camera (MarkIII)

Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:33 am

Sorry i have been away a few days.

Thanks for all the comments guys. I will mull over my decision a few more days and check out the forums to see if there is any improvement in the comments.

Thanks
Simon C
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