KAWA
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Soft, Dirty ...?

Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:04 pm

Soft? Ok maybe it is soft but dirty ? Where ?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...ctions/big/20070712_przelot747.jpg

Piotr
 
speedbirdegjj
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:22 pm

Theres a huge dustspot thats bigger than the aircraft about an inch underneath it......
 
alphafloor
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:07 am

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 1):
Theres a huge dustspot thats bigger than the aircraft about an inch underneath it......

This is no a dust spot.

I can't see any spot in this shot. Fantastic shot !!!
Whatever
 
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:21 am

Dustpot circled in red below.

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536892286/1184253653fLjzwU.jpg



Bmibaby737
 
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:30 am

Not a hole in the cloud then?
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:44 am

I see dirt in the top right corner and yes its a little soft
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:57 am

Hi Piotr.

I think this shot has fallen into the same trap that one of mine did a few months ago - I posted about that one here.

I would agree that I cannot see any dirt in your photo, but that patch in the cloud highlighted by colleagues above does look rather like dust spots/blemishes look in digital images. You can see why someone might be fooled into thinking it was dirt.

I raised the issue in my thread about what we are supposed to do in such circumstances. There was no definitive answer, so we are left to draw conclusions but, on that basis, it seems that the least we should do is mention the issue to the screeners, but in the end it appears that such 'apparent' dirt should be cloned out. This may appear to contravene the sites rules about cloning, but it looks as though having a clean looking image takes priority. I drew this conclusion because I appealed my image - after being able to demonstrate beyond doubt that my 'blemish' was in fact a wisp of cloud - and it was still rejected for 'dirty'. I received no further message but on that basis I can only conclude that the screeners wanted me to tidy up the apparent blemish by cloning.

It may be helpful to get confirmation of this from the team - or a different view if required.

All the best.

Paul
 
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:23 am

Piotr

No maybe about it, it is soft.

Regards

Gary
 
KAWA
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:16 pm

 
Psych
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RE: Soft, Dirty ...?

Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:04 am

Hi Piotr.

It is a shame that, once again, we have not been able to debate this issue of cloning for 'dirt that isn't dirt'. But I think you should assume that, as no-one has said that you shouldn't do this, then the only sensible conclusions to draw is that you should - as you have done. As it is now I don't think you would get a 'dirty' rejection but, unfortunately, it sill still not going to satisfy the screeners from the point of view of quality/soft/blurry. A shame, as the effects on the contrail are very nice.

All the best.

Paul

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