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dlednicer
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Please Use Autofill

Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:51 pm

In monitoring newly accepted photos in the database, I keep finding errors in people's submissions that could have been avoided if they had used autofill. When submitting a photo, first type in the registration of the aircraft and/or the airfield identifier at the top of the screen and click on "Get Info". Autofill will check the a.net database and attempt to fill in the appropriate information further down the screen. Auto fill is not perfect, but it gets you a long ways there. Use a little common sense if it provides you obviously wrong info. For example, last night I submitted a picture of a Nanchang CJ-6A registered C-FGCJ. Autofill identified this as a 737, as this was the previous use of the registration. I changed the appropriate fields to correct the information. If auto fill provides something that you don't think is right and you are reluctant to stick your neck out and change it, include a message to the screeners in your submission.

I would encourage people to research what they are submitting. Search for the registration in Google and see what you get. Consult the FAA database for US registered aircraft : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/ or for other registrations, see if databases are available at www.landings.com (go down to the bottom of the page and click on "Databases"). For military aircraft, consult Scramble: http://www.scramble.nl/milbase.htm For US military aircraft, double check with Joe Baugher's lists: http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/. If its a helicopter, check Rotorspot: http://www.geocities.com/rotorspot/historic.htm or this site: http://www30.brinkster.com/ukcopter/frames/master.html. For airliners, there are great database spreadsheets available at www.airlinerlist.com.

Also, look at the a.net database to see how aircraft of this type are identified. Put effort into understanding what you took a picture of. If you are really uncertain what to do, e-mail me at: dlednicer@airliners.net
 
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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:22 am

Quoting Dlednicer (Thread starter):
If auto fill provides something that you don't think is right and you are reluctant to stick your neck out and change it, include a message to the screeners in your submission.

Thanks for this clarification

Perhaps this statement needs to be
1) added to the text by teh current AUTOFILL box that warns NOT to mess with the info

2) be circulated to all screeners.
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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:58 am

Autofill is great but I still feel on something that is out of the norn do the research yourself. Google and Yahoo are great things. Find out the info and put it in when you upload. Solves a ton of problems.
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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:07 am



"NEVER erase..."
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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:38 am

Quoting Eksath (Reply 3):
"NEVER erase..."

I agree that this shouldn't be followed literally - I have had autofill supply incorrect info several times. If you know what was supplied is incorrect, fix it. If you sense a problem with the screeners, add a remark when you submit. I always add a remark explaining how I leveled the shot.

I'll talk to Henks about the NEVER directive.
 
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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:37 am

I have a suggestion for improvement of the autofill function.

If you upload a photo of, say, the Fokker D.21 with the registration 221 in a Dutch museum, then autofill will automatically insert a wrong c/n and a wrong code, belonging to a French C.160 Transall with the same registration.

The D.21 has no c/n (being a mock-up) and no code, and because only the c/n and code for the Transall are available in the database, these are inserted. Many uploaders think it must be OK and don't remove these.

So my suggestion is that if a certain aircraft/registration in the database has blank c/n or code fields (correctly or not), this should be recognized by the autofill system as a valid choice, to avoid wrong information automatically being inserted.

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RE: Please Use Autofill

Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:26 pm

Peter,

Thats an excellent suggestion. I'll get this to Henks - we're putting together a wish list right now.

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