CaptainJon
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Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:37 am

Hi Guys,

Currently I own a Canon Powershot S2 IS. Which happens to be a great camera (and my one and only picture I submitted got accepted with it) so overall I am happy with it. However, I think I am ready to upgrade to a digital SLR. I do have a film SLR, which I have not used in quite some time, but I rather go completely digital. I been looking for reviews (found a great one on the XTi, but not 40D). A girl at work recommends not getting a camera with self-cleaning sensors, she feels they aren't good or trustworthy. She is a semi-professional photographer and she is the one that got me into Canon cameras. So what do you guys recommend? Do you have sample images to show me, of both cameras?

I would love to hear feedback on these two cameras.

Thanks!!
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:04 am

Quoting CaptainJon (Thread starter):
I would love to hear feedback on these two cameras.

...the 40d hasn't actually hit the street that I'm aware of so it may be difficult to get feedback on it.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:08 am

Jon,

The 40D was only officially announced last week, so any model that has been used by photographers up to this week is pre-production.

Quoting CaptainJon (Thread starter):
I been looking for reviews (found a great one on the XTi, but not 40D).

You won't find a full review on the 40D yet... keep an eye out on this website as their reviews are often very, very good. http://www.dpreview.com

Quoting CaptainJon (Thread starter):
A girl at work recommends not getting a camera with self-cleaning sensors, she feels they aren't good or trustworthy.

Both these cameras have this feature, and no offence to your friend, but it sounds like bs to me. They might not be that effective, but they are certainly no un-trustworthy. They're just another feature. If they break, its warranty... but mine has never broken.

To answer your question honestly, the 40D is a far superior camera in every respect when compared to the Xti (400D). It has a superior processor, a better image sensor, improved fps rate, as well as a host of other improvements. There really is no doubting that the 40D should be your first choice. (Assuming price is not a strong consideration)

Regards,

Carl
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:20 am

I can see you have the S2. I first used the S1 for digital and I liked it but there were limitations. Especially when you need to take fast shots. I couldn't use the screen all the time and used it the regular way (looking through the eyepiece) with a difficulty(I am more of a regular camera guy when it comes to photos like these). I got a XT later on and liked it better. It depends if you want a high end or a regular SLR and how your skill is. If you want the quality then go to the digital SLR like the XTi. I had some great photos but not editable for websites like these. I know a few that had it and did well on other photo sites. It all depends on what you want and how much you want to pay.
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CaptainJon
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:36 am

I did not know it just released. That explains why that website I go to DCRP Review hasn't reviewed it yet!

The limitations of the S2 is exactly why I want to get a digital SLR. I spend too much time getting the focus lock to work, and the manual focus on it is horrible. I am considering the 40D as my first choice, however the XTi being cheaper is definitely a thing to consider. The way I see it, if I am going to invest money into a camera I want it to last a long time. If I get the XTi, I will want the 40D in two years (knowing me).

I do not have expert skills yet, I think I am a decent photographer who is limited with that I got. Yeah I can take great pictures with the S2, but I am ready to move up. I like how the 40D has the Digic III chip, 10.1 MP (though I am sure I don't need more than 8). I do like how Canon has all CMOS over CCD that the Nikons have.

The photography girl I know from work definitely knows her photography, she is more than likely a technophobe, I imagine she grew up cleaning cameras left and right and doesn't like how she can't access certain areas. I thought the anti-dust feature was a pretty neat one to tell you the truth.

Of course I like to take great aviation pictures with it, but I do travel a lot, and would love to have a superior camera to take superior pictures. (One of these days I'll buy a cheap point and shoot just to keep something in my pocket).

Obviously the 40D is more expensive, and I imagine so will good lenses and filters, I think in the long run, the 40D will be a better investment since I can add to it as I become more experienced with it.

I guess I'll have to wait for the reviews of the 40D to come out, but more than likely that is what I will get.
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:34 pm

I'll preface this by admitting that I am about to buy a 400D/XTi...

I've got over 700 pictures in the db taken on a S3 IS and another 77 or so shot on a S2 IS. For that matter, I have 70 or shot shot on an awful KonicaMinolta Dimage Z5. My message is that it is possible to shoot a.net quality pictures with these cameras. On the other hand, you really have to work on the images, removing noise, correcting exposure, removing red fringes, burning areas and sharpening. My S3 IS has a couple of dead pixels that I have to fix on each shot too.

However, for travel, S3 IS is hard to beat. You can carry it in a fanny pack with spare SD cards and batteries. The flip-out screen is great for holding the camera over your head to shoot over crowds or low fences. Being able to drop AA batteries into it is nice when you are in a remote region and your battery charger dies (as happened to me in Tibet). It also is less conspicuous than a DSLR in places where people are sensitive about cameras.

The downside to switching to the 400D/XTi for me is the money I'll be spending for the camera, extra battery pack and CF cards - I wish it used SD cards as I have tons of them. The upside is obviously the quality of the images.
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:23 pm

400D and some good glass (if money is an issue).

I went for the 20D for about $20 less than the 400D (can't live without that wheel on the back  Smile )
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:05 am

*Insert Sound Of GE90 Spooling Up Here*
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting JeffM (Reply 1):
..the 40d hasn't actually hit the street

It's been out in Asia for a few days now, some DPReview-ers have got it, at least one POTN-er, and I guess someone at FM too. Noise, which people were asking about, seems to be the same as from the 20D/30D.
But the other features could be nice (at least for me...).
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:19 am

Quoting Dlednicer (Reply 5):
You can carry it in a fanny pack with spare SD cards and batteries.

You didnt just say "fanny pack" did you David?  checkeredflag 
 
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RE: Canon EOS 40D Or Rebel XTi

Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:03 am

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 9):
You didnt just say "fanny pack" did you David?

Yes, all that in a fanny pack. If I had been carrying anything other than this, I wouldn't have made it past two levels of base security to get these pictures:

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As it was, the third level of security caught me, but by then I was in the Tango Squadron's area and the commander told them to get lost. In return, I had to promise not to point my camera at the runway.

I also wouldn't have gotten this shot with anything other than that setup:

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