FLYB6JETS
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:40 pm

Hey Man. I will comment on them but I have to warn you - I am not a very established photographer (on A.net at least) so take my advice with a grain of salt:

#1 - Definately a motive rejection as the wingtip is cut off. On shots like this, make sure you include the whole aircraft in the frame. It is also not level, Needs some CW rotation.

#2 - Looks a little underexposed to my eye

#3 - Again, motive rejection. On a shot like this I would use a smaller lens and try and fit the wing in as well.

Like I said, take my observations with a grain of salt and definately wait to get more opinions before trashing them based on what I said. Hope my thoughts help though.
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:45 pm

Scott,

1. VA 747 will probably get kicked for quality. What sticks out most is the grain and noise on the engines. The red on the engines and tail looks bad.

2. It looks oversharpened (I am on a crappy monitor) I say this because of some sharpening Halos on tail.

3. Motive. Motive would be better if the wingtip was included and not cropped out.

Just my opinion.

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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:54 pm

cheers guys...

i have to note im using th stock 18-55 on the 400D, my new 28-105 is arriving this week, so shots will improve...

scott
 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:07 pm

Quoting MAN23R (Reply 3):
i have to note im using th stock 18-55 on the 400D

That lens is plenty sufficient for close shots like this
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:55 pm

I think #1 may be saved with some CW rotation, and a *tighter* crop. Crops that work on a.net crop to the entire airframe, or the entire fuselage, or half the fuselage. You have a crop that is halfway between the entire airframe, but not quite a crop to the fuselage. In other words, if you are going to clip part of the wing, clip a lot of it, not just the tip.

#2 looks too dark, and maybe oversharpened.

#3 is a strange crop. Showing the first half of the plane is fine, but why did you crop to leave in all the grass below? At 1200x1152, you'll probably get size and motive rejections. Aim for a 2:3 or 3:4 ratio. Very few square shots will make it here.
 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:10 pm

Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 4):
Quoting MAN23R (Reply 3):
i have to note im using th stock 18-55 on the 400D

That lens is plenty sufficient for close shots like this

so why am i not getting quality shots, something to do with my camera settings?

scott
 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:16 pm

Quoting MAN23R (Reply 6):
so why am i not getting quality shots, something to do with my camera settings?

Can you post your camera settings? What mode do you shoot in, av, tv, iso speed?
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:04 am

Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 4):
That lens is plenty sufficient for close shots like this

 checkmark  Many of my shots were taken with the kit lens.

Quoting MAN23R (Reply 6):
so why am i not getting quality shots, something to do with my camera settings?



Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 7):
Can you post your camera settings? What mode do you shoot in, av, tv, iso speed?

Might have something to do with your editing workflow as well. There is a little too much contrast. For grain, are you shooting at ISO higher than 100?
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:51 am

Quoting MAN23R (Reply 6):
so why am i not getting quality shots, something to do with my camera settings?

You are shooting at ISO400 - that's your main problem. When the sun is out use ISO100 this will reduce the noise (grain in film speak). You also are shooting F16 x2 and F14, try F8 this should give you plenty of DOF and keep your images sharp. Try using centre weighted average metering or evaluative to try and get an image the is correctly exposed overall. Of course you can fix that in post processing but it helps to get as near perfect as you can straight from the camera.

Good luck .. Jid
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:06 pm

morning guys,

im going to have to start reading up on the mumbo jumbo, i rarely shoot other than the auto mode, this is because i dont know what setings im supposed to use. can anyone recommend a good site to get clued up?

my new 28-105 USM II arrived about an hour ago, tme to start playing...

im heading out to basel on wednesday, then to zurich, then onto munich for the bolton game, ill able to experiement with setting etc....

scott
 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:40 pm

Quoting MAN23R (Reply 10):
im going to have to start reading up on the mumbo jumbo, i rarely shoot other than the auto mode, this is because i dont know what setings im supposed to use. can anyone recommend a good site to get clued up?

Sounds like you have some great equipment, but it is the knowledge and skill of the person behind the viewfinder is a big part of it. Having a basic knowledge of proper exposure, aperture, composition, etc is not only essential but makes the process a lot more fun! There are a lot of books on photography as well as camera specific books, DVDs, etc. that can help you learn some basic photography skills as well as learn about the advanced functions of your camera as well.  camera 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:03 pm

Hi Scott

Try this website.....good info on basics of photography with a bias towards aviation

http://www.primeimages.co.uk/

Regards

Glenn
 
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RE: Could These Get Accepted?from MAN

Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:17 pm

thankyou very much guys...

much appriciated

scott

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