crashxn2me
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Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:19 am

Hello!
This is my first post and just subscribed a half hour ago. I been getting into aviation photography within the last year, been to the infamous Lincoln Ave. spot a few times and did my first night shoot last Monday (which was a pretty clear night) at Imperial Hill. I searched the forums for night photography and took some tips with me before my shoot. Still didn't have much success.

I shot on a:
Canon 30D
Tripod
Remote Switcher
EF 70-200 2.8L IS USM

I tried swithing to Bulb and shot at f11 or f16, shot at ISO 100 then bumped it up to 400. Didn't want to shoot at an ISO of 800 or above to get the grain but I experimented with longer exposure times w/smaller aperture. Tried AV at f/8. My goal is to start posting on here to get feedback from the airliners.net community and enjoy all the posts. Any tips would be much appreciated. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.

I'm looking forward engaging with all the aviation enthusiasts  Smile

Crystal
 
sluger020889
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:30 am

Hi there, and welcome to A.net.

We can't really help you until you post some examples.

Joey
I would love to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!
 
DeltaAVL
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:37 am

Oooooh! A female!  Wink

Just kidding, welcome to A.net; it's a shame you've come in the midst of all this trouble, but it'll be fun nonetheless.

Looking forward to seeing some of your work!  Smile
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waketurbulence
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:55 am

I have shot a few times at night at LAX. What type of shot are you trying to achieve? You can post already accepted shots on Anet as examples. Also, as the above poster mentioned, post some of your own shots with EXIF data so we can get an idea for what happened.
-Matt
 
crashxn2me
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:58 am

Thx for the fast responses GUYS!  Wink I have to figure out and post some of the bad shots that I took with the EXIF data that Matt was talking about. I'll be uploading them....
 
777MechSys
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:59 am

Advice:

1. ISO 100-200 should be fine.
2. Manual Exposure.
3. f /5.6 is great place to start
4. Set whitebalance for the ugly airport lights
5. Light meter in camera is just a good start.
6. If you have an older camera you may need to turn on "long exposure noise reduction"

What happens is older cameras have pixels that leak during long exposures. This makes the shot look noisy. Random red green and blue pixels everywhere. The long exposure setting takes another equal length exposure with the shutter closed. If the camera sees pixels that are not black it removes them from the previous shot. It then replaces them with a pixel that matches the one next to it. Newer cameras typically don't have that problem.
 
viv
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:18 pm

Also,

shoot in RAW if you can - gives you more freedom to correct the exposure later.

Use manual focus - the autofocus may have trouble locking on in the dark.
Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
 
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clickhappy
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:54 pm

If you get the white balance how you want it there is no need for RAW.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/1798437049/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/1799502512/

These were done @ f/4, ISO 200
 
777MechSys
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:42 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 7):
If you get the white balance how you want it there is no need for RAW.

Absolutely.

It takes an extra 3 minutes to properly set whitebalance. If you know your equipment.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aggieveedub/1800676725/
 
dbudd
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:12 pm

Crystal..

I was just there a few weeks ago and I did some night photography.

Look thru here....second album is from LAS my hometown.

http://www.visitinglas.com/album/album/index.html

http://www.visitinglas.com/rule_the_night/index.html

It's easy to capture night shots once you know what your doing. I usually set the time exposure and let the camera do it's own thing when it comes to apertures.

I bracket the shot and take three tries at the same picture ..adding and subtracting a second on either side of what the camera says it needs.

Contact me by email for more info..

Dave

dave_budd@yahoo.com
 
777MechSys
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm

Quoting Dbudd (Reply 9):
adding and subtracting a second

A second? Really? So on a 20 second exposure you bracket by 1/20 of a stop?

The longer the exposure the less impact 1 second will have.
 
dbudd
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:03 pm

most of my shots are in the four second range..
 
777MechSys
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RE: Amateur At Night Photography (LAX)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:22 pm

Quoting Dbudd (Reply 11):
most of my shots are in the four second range..

That makes sense.  Wink

ISO 100? How much of a difference do you see between shots?

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