SkyWestFan
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Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:49 am

As always, late nights bright on feelings of inadequatecy......of ones camera equipment that is. I have been purusing several online camera shops and was wondering if anyone has heard of, used or have any information on some of the following stores.

Ive been goole-ing different cameras and lenses and come up with several "great deals"


www.shopcartusa.com provides a list of several good deals on the bottom of the page. For example:

http://www.shopcartusa.com/P_Canon_1...S_Lens_2577A002/PT_Y/?ic_campID=98

My question is...Do the stores like "Xpress Camera" "Best Price Cameras" who are offering the deals and cheap prices at the bottom....CAN THEY BE FOR REAL? Are they legitimate?

Anyone have any advice or experience about these sites????


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Marc
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NIKV69
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:08 am

Most of them are scams that sell Grey market. Be very cauious with ebay as well. To be safe you should only trust B&H and Adorama. They have the biggest selection, stock and their prices are right in line.
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:13 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Most of them are scams that sell Grey market.

I concur. They will advertise a product, but when you call them to purchase the product they don't have it in stock even though the web site said it was in stock. I would avoid Shop cart et al like the plague. I learned the hard way by ordering a product from one of those sites and waiting about two weeks with no response. I contacted them and they said the camera I ordered was on back order and that it would take time because they are not officially affiliated with the camera manufacturer. I got into a little heated debate with them and told them to cancel my order. Two weeks later my credit card company picked up on suspicious transaction and stopped it cold. Lesson learned and thank goodness my credit card company was as diligent as they were.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Be very cauious with ebay as well.

Agreed. Although I did purchase my 20D and a nice Sigma lense off from eBay with no issue whatsoever. Two tips if you're going to use eBay: 1) Look at their feedback. If there is a lot of negative feedback avoid dealing with them. 2) Use PayPal when doing your transaction. That way if you get scammed, you have buyer's protection (be helpful to read up on PayPal's policies concerning buyer's protection too.)
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:49 pm

Buy from B&H or Adorama or Ritz Online.

A good place for used gear is KEH. User forums like Fredmiranda, Nikonians, and Dyxum are also good for finding used gear.
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:23 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
To be safe you should only trust B&H and Adorama



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 3):
Buy from B&H or Adorama or Ritz Online

While these are fine vendors (although I avoid Ritz as their prices are high), there are other safe places to buy online . I have purchased from Canoga Camera, Amazon.com, newegg.com, 17th Street Photo and BuyDig and had good buying experiences with each. General rule is that if the price is too good to be true they're a scam. A reliable place for checking online vendors before you buy is resellerratings.com.

Quoting Michlis (Reply 2):
Two tips if you're going to use eBay: 1) Look at their feedback. If there is a lot of negative feedback avoid dealing with them. 2) Use PayPal when doing your transaction. That way if you get scammed, you have buyer's protection (be helpful to read up on PayPal's policies concerning buyer's protection too.)

Also take a look at the items the vendor has sold. A common practice is to sell and deliver many small, inexpensive items to build up a good feedback score before listing an expensive item that will turn out to be a scam.
 
SkyWestFan
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:49 pm

Thanks for the heads up folks.
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:25 pm

Quoting PhilGil (Reply 4):
General rule is that if the price is too good to be true they're a scam.

That or they sell their cameras at heavily discounted prices to lure you in. They often follow-up on your order by shoving hundreds of dollars of unnecessary and overpriced accessories in your face. Often these companies are also a nightmare to work with when requesting a refund. The price may be legit, as well as the vendor, but don't expect anything other than lousy customer service.

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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:40 pm

Quoting N243NW (Reply 6):
They often follow-up on your order by shoving hundreds of dollars of unnecessary and overpriced accessories in your face.

Or they'll over charge you for something you wouldn't bother checking the price on. A place called CCI Camera City in NYC once charged me $30 for a lithium battery. I was buying an FM2n, and they asked whether they should throw a battery in. I said "sure", thinking it would cost five bucks. I didn't do the math in my head when they gave me the total.

They've been targeted by the NY attorney general's office, have a pretty bad reputation generally, but they still seem to be around.

This is from a few years ago, but it gives you the idea:

http://photo.net/neighbor/view-one?neighbor_to_neighbor_id=119486
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RE: Legitimacy Of Camera Stores?

Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:39 am

If prices seem to be too good to be true, they probably are.

Caveat emptor!
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