Philthy
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Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:47 am

Chaps,

I've just had this tail shot rejected for Motiv. Anybody care to enlighten me as to why?

Thanks,

Philthy


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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:58 am

It is probably the cut off horizontal stabilizer and to be honest, the crop isn't really appealing to me either...

Maybe if you have a version where you can include the hor. stab. it might be savable...

Hope this helps!

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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:10 am

Surely not? That wouldn't be the first cropped-off tailplane on this site by a very long shot.

Nothing I can do about that, anyway.
 
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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:14 am



Quoting Philthy (Reply 2):

Nothing I can do about that, anyway.

You can always try an appeal if you don't agree  Wink

Cheers
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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:07 am



Quoting KLM772ER (Reply 3):
You can always try an appeal if you don't agree

Thanks Bjorn, I'm trying to get some opinions before I decide whether to appeal or not. What grounds would I appeal on? 'Motiv' is one of those "How long's a piece of string?" things that it's practically impossible to argue against.

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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:28 am

Philthy motive is subjective at the best of times. I do not think an appeal would be successful as I agree with Bjorn's assessment about the stab being cropped out. In full frame shots this is normally ok but it very rarely works in tail close ups.

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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:00 pm

too much dead space on three sides of the tail, too much tail covered by a very dark horizontal stabiliser.
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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:01 pm



Quoting Philthy (Reply 4):
I'm trying to get some opinions before I decide whether to appeal or not

I wouldn't waste the time. It won't win
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RE: Motiv For Tailshot: Why?

Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:09 pm

Phil

The question which one asks here is: "What interesting factor does this close-up show?"

That is always the question I ask myself when screening close-ups. Some close-up images show logos not visible in an entire-aircraft shot, while others show panel detail or interesting reflections, etc. Others have a dynamic viewpoint, while further examples fill the frame in a more thorough way than a side-on shot would.

Unfortunately these criteria are not met with this shot. It is merely the tail of the plane, and no more detail is visible than a side-on would show.

It is a competent shot, of that there is no doubt. It is simply missing a factor which justifies the crop. A good analogy would be an airport overview showing a couple of administrative buildings versus one which shows the terminal building and control tower.

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