deltajet757
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Best Nikon Lens

Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:29 pm

I'm going to Maui for Christmas again and I want to get some good shots while at the airport, on the plane and some general sightseeing stuff as well.

I'm thinking about getting a telephoto lens for my Nikon D40. Right now I have the standard 18-55mm lens which I don't like because it doesn't zoom in far enough (no duh).

I want to be able to take shots like these...... I find that I'm always limited to the perimeter fence like most of us are. I'm almost always too far from what ever I want to take a good picture of whether I'm actually on the plane r on the ground.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0900842/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1282626/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1136345/L/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1304163/L/


Any suggestions?
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ake0404ar
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:01 pm

If I were you, I would contact the photographers and ask them for the EXIF data. Voila and you have all the infos you need.

A typical "aviation lens" is the 100-400 (Canon) and 80-400 Nikon or 170-500 Sigma

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:41 pm

Depending on your budget (prices in CDN dollars since I don't really know US prices):

70-300 VR just released this year has great optics for the price (about $700 CDN). Super light and very compact considering its reach.

80-400 is an older lens, has VR but doesn't have AFS focusing (about $1,500 cdn). I wasn't thrilled with the quality when I looked at it, ended up getting the 70-300 for my low-cost travel lens.

70-200 AFS VR is a fantastic lens, super sharp, good VR, big f2.8 aperature ($1,900 CDN). Works well with the 1.4 and 1.7 teleconverters.

200-400 AFS VR is one of Nikkor's flagship lenses, and you pay by the pound, about $5,200 CDN. Fast f4 considering it's a long, 2x zoom range. Works well with the 1.4 and 1.7 TC's.

If you're willing to go used, check around for an 80-200 f2.8 AF lens. Won't focus super-fast, but almost as good of optics as the 70-200 AFS VR.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:14 pm



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 2):
If you're willing to go used, check around for an 80-200 f2.8 AF lens

That one won't have auto focus on the D40 as it is not an AFS lens. but otherwise CalgaryBill is spot on.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:38 pm

http://www.moosepeterson.com/gear/200-400vr.html

This is a pretty good lens, but it is very expensive. It's also very heavy, but that can be a good thing too.
 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:01 am



Quoting Diezel (Reply 3):
That one won't have auto focus on the D40 as it is not an AFS lens. but otherwise CalgaryBill is spot on.

Oops, forgot about that. Then I think the same is true of the 80-400...

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deltajet757
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:30 am

I'll check out how much that 200-400 AFS VR is. Has to be real good if it's one of the flahship lenses.

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Jawed
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:17 am

Careful, the 170-500 Sigma has terrible reviews regarding its sharpness:

http://www.photographyreview.com/cat...-zoom/sigma/PRD_83590_3128crx.aspx

Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 1):


A typical "aviation lens" is the 100-400 (Canon) and 80-400 Nikon or 170-500 Sigma

 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:46 am



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 2):
200-400 AFS VR is one of Nikkor's flagship lenses, and you pay by the pound, about $5,200 CDN. Fast f4 considering it's a long, 2x zoom range. Works well with the 1.4 and 1.7 TC's.

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2146

Is this the one you're talking about? It's a bit large for taking on the plane but it must be good. Looks expensive though.
I'm looking for something that has good quality, relatively compact and has good zoom.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:09 am



Quoting Deltajet757 (Reply 6):
I'll check out how much that 200-400 AFS VR is.

I would highly suggest upgrading your camera before getting this lens. You have the least expensive Nikon DSLR and you want to get the most expensive zoom lens Nikon makes.

I would suggest the 70-300mm vr lens for your camera.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:21 am



Quoting Diezel (Reply 3):
That one won't have auto focus on the D40 as it is not an AFS lens. but otherwise CalgaryBill is spot on.



Great lens. Also the 80-200 2.8 non VR is awesome too. Gives you great results in a lot of different situations. But he is right. Hey you can always buy a D80.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:22 am



Quoting DeltaJet757 (Reply 8):
Is this the one you're talking about? It's a bit large for taking on the plane but it must be good. Looks expensive though.
I'm looking for something that has good quality, relatively compact and has good zoom.

This lens is absolutely NOT suitable for travelling - it is very large and very heavy.


Maybe the Sigma 50-500 f4-6.3 EX DG HSM might be better. I've got one that I use with a D80. It could almost be called portable, but not really compact.
 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:40 am



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 9):
I would suggest the 70-300mm vr lens for your camera.

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2161

This one looks like the one I'm after. I'll just have to get slightly bigger camera bag. But that one looks suitable for me.
Thanks for the recommendation. That's #1 on my top lens' list so far.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:47 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 11):
This lens is absolutely NOT suitable for travelling - it is very large and very heavy.

It is a PITA for travel, but is doable. It fit in my LowePro CompuTrekker along with a D2x, D200, 70-200, laptop and other stuff. Unfortunately, I was three pounds over the 22 pound limit so I had to stow the lens in my suitcase (I had a protective case in there for just such a circumstance!). Without the laptop I would have had no problem. It fit nicely in the CompuTrekker for the hike from Axalp to Ebenfluh too, but it's a pain to hand-hold for several hours of shooting fast movers. My rationale though was, if I'm going halfway around the world and hiking up a mountain to shoot airplanes, I want to shoot them through the best glass I can afford to buy/carry.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:51 am

are you sure you don't want the Nikon 80-400?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005LEOO

Quoting DeltaJet757 (Reply 12):
http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2161

This one looks like the one I'm after. I'll just have to get slightly bigger camera bag. But that one looks suitable for me.
Thanks for the recommendation. That's #1 on my top lens' list so far.

 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:34 am



Quoting Jawed (Reply 14):
are you sure you don't want the Nikon 80-400?

As Diezel mentioned above, screw-focus lenses won't work on a D40.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:15 am



Quoting DeltaJet757 (Reply 8):
It's a bit large for taking on the plane but it must be good. Looks expensive though.



Quoting Cpd (Reply 11):
This lens is absolutely NOT suitable for travelling - it is very large and very heavy.

Wimps.  Wink

I routinely travel with 3 Mark IIns, a 400 2.8 (or 300 2.8), 70-200, 16-35, 50 1.4, laptop and all the associated junk that goes with it. That's why I got a rolling case. I could barely move after cramming all that into a backpack.

If you're looking for a decent used Nikon lens, check out the 80-200 AF-S. It's no VR, but I used it before switching to Canon. It was a good lens. Fast focus and pretty tough.
 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:40 pm

DeltaJet..

Look at this..

http://www.visitinglas.com/junk/12-2-2_035.jpg

A shot I took recently with the 70-300 VR on a D50 body. I shoot raw and this was edited with the ACR on default settings. I applied no extra sharpening. ACR does it's own sharpening but you can see how crisp the image is almost straight out the camera..

For a $480 ..you can't beat this lens.

VR.html" target=_blank>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...161_70_300mm_f_4_5_6G_AF_S_VR.html

I go everywhere with it!!!

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:36 pm



Quoting Chrisair (Reply 16):
I routinely travel with 3 Mark IIns, a 400 2.8 (or 300 2.8), 70-200, 16-35, 50 1.4, laptop and all the associated junk that goes with it. That's why I got a rolling case. I could barely move after cramming all that into a backpack.

been there, done it.

So far you have gotten a lot of suggestions. One important thing was not mentioned so far:

What's your budget?

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:31 pm



Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 18):
So far you have gotten a lot of suggestions. One important thing was not mentioned so far:

What's your budget?

The most I'm willing to spend on a lens is $700 tops as I have to have my computer repaired (cracked screen and won't stay closed) All I need is a lens that's built well, takes good photos, easy to transport. The last thing I need to have is one the size of a civil war cannon.

Remember, the lens must fit a D40.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:37 am

Took this today with my 70-300 VR

http://www.visitinglas.com/junk/VAdetail.jpg

Remember this is a landing 747 doing roughly 130 knts. This is not at full zoom(300mm) but I cropped out a shot showing the detail around the APU. I think it's one hella good lens for the money!!!

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:33 am



Quoting Dbudd (Reply 17):
I shoot raw and this was edited with the ACR on default settings. I applied no extra sharpening. ACR does it's own sharpening but you can see how crisp the image is almost straight out the camera..

Dave lose the defaults and turn all those off in ACR. Do if yourself, the end result is so much better.

Quoting Dbudd (Reply 20):
I think it's one hella good lens for the money!!!

Dave is right, pound for pound if you can use the lens properly the results are amazing for what you pay for it.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:20 am



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 2):
70-200 AFS VR is a fantastic lens, super sharp, good VR, big f2.8 aperature ($1,900 CDN). Works well with the 1.4 and 1.7 teleconverters.

... If you have the money, go for that with a converter. 200-400 is probably bit too much for the D40  Wink
70-200 might be a bit bulky for the D40 frame but I have got some fantastic animal pictures with it on my D40x (I don't own the lens but have been able to borrow one).

If you are looking for a cheaper lens go for the 70-300 mentioned... excellent lens for the money and easy to take along for the compact size. All (3) of my a.net accepeted pictures has been taken with that lens on the D40x.
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:25 pm

No one has mentioned the 18-200VR which is a good all rounder and not as expensive as some of the others. This would also eliminate the need for more than one lens for any closer shots you might get.

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:25 pm



Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 23):
No one has mentioned the 18-200VR which is a good all rounder and not as expensive as some of the others.

That lens seems to have as many detractors as it does fans. Personally, I've not used it, and given my current range of excellent lenses, don't need it, but I can certainly see the attractions of it as an "only lens I need when travelling on vacation".
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:30 pm



Quoting DeltaJet757 (Thread starter):

If your budget won't allow for an image stabilized lens,like the 70-200,70-300, try to find an older 80-200mm . It is a 2.8 fast, extremely sharp lens...with all the new lenses on the market, this one I mention you can find for a steal and you won't be sorry.All the above lenses mentioned are very good,depends on your shooting habits and access to aircraft, but put the $$$ in your optics...ED 2.8 fast lenses...j...PS....after shooting with 18-55, I suggest not leaping to 200-400 as the change will be uncomfortable in several ways...the 70-200,80-200,and 70-300 are a more practical transition.
 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:05 pm



Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 23):
No one has mentioned the 18-200VR which is a good all rounder and not as expensive as some of the others.

The 70-300 VR is almost $200 less at my camera store than the 18-200. The latter gets some pretty bad reviews, is very soft at the 200 end, and has been getting even more bad reviews lately for poor quality control. I wanted an 18-200 as a travel lens, but when I tried one out the quality definitely wasn't there, either in build or images. What really surprised me, when I did some research on the 18-200, was the huge number of near-new ones for sale!

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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:25 am

I have a D40 and i recently bought the nikkor 70-300 AF-S lens and i find it fantastic.Some pics below.

http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1025401/
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http://www.cork-spotters.com/photo/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=0
 
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RE: Best Nikon Lens

Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:24 am

One last example from me.

I went shooting today and although it wasn't real cold it prove nice early. The day was still hazy but I captured this Bizjet taking off rwy 25R.

http://www.visitinglas.com/junk/1500ft.jpg

Any one who has been to LAS knows how far a take off is and then to shoot a small bizjet is even harder. This measured out at about 1500 ft on maps.google.com

This is a slight crop down from the original 6 meg file but it still has good quality for me. Not the best example as i could probably find a better one but this is from today.

I love this lens!!!

Dave

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