ua935
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Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:29 pm

The following just got rejected centered:-

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r.../big/20080116_GBYGALHR01122007.jpg

It has the same amount of dead space below the engine and above the fuselage, how should we centre now accrding to the Anet enforcers?

Should the nose be centered vertically leaving a huge amount of dead space above the fuselage?

If so then things are on a downward spiral around here.
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:42 pm



Quoting UA935 (Thread starter):
It has the same amount of dead space below the engine and above the fuselage, how should we centre now accrding to the Anet enforcers?

I wouldn't make it according to any numbers or measurement...

The best way to center the plane in the frame is to simply have a look at it and make it look balanced! And than if you are not sure you can take some grids and center them both vertical and horizontal and have another look to judge better...
That is the way I do it and it works fine for me!

As for your picture, it is to high in frame...

TZ once had a good statement in a former thread:

Quoting TZ:
For the physicists out there, you're looking for the "centre of gravity" of the aircraft to be in the middle, unless the motivation of the shot dictates otherwise. I hope that makes sense?

hope this helps!

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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:02 pm

You also left out the soft and oversharp rejections.

Might be easier to get peoples opinions if they have all the facts.

My feeling is that if the quality was there it would not have seen a centering rejection.
 
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:22 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
You also left out the soft and oversharp rejections.

Yeah that's a good one, soft and oversharp!

I posted for views on the centering issues not for anything else.

If I wanted opinion on if the image was oversharp or soft I would have requested that.

If you would like to explain how soft and oversharpened rejections go together go ahead but that was not the intention of my post.
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:24 pm



Quoting UA935 (Reply 3):
If you would like to explain how soft and oversharpened rejections go together go ahead but that was not the intention of my post.

Out of focus image oversharpened to compensate.
 
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:10 pm



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):

Out of focus image oversharpened to compensate.

Why not just use "Blurry" then which is for OOF?
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:28 pm

I'm no expert, but as soon as I opened the link, it seemed too high in the frame.
 
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:31 pm



Quoting 747438 (Reply 6):
I'm no expert, but as soon as I opened the link, it seemed too high in the frame.

I agree. I wouldn't try to center the image by the top of the nose and the bottom of the number 3 engine. Center it by the fuselage only. That way it wont look like its to high in the frame...

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RE: Centered Rejection?

Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:35 pm

To add my center rejection here.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0080117_OK-CGJ_735_OK_150407_3.jpg

How to crop better? On top or at the bottom?

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RE: Centered Rejection?

Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:14 pm



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 8):
To add my center rejection here.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...0080117_OK-CGJ_735_OK_150407_3.jpg

How to crop better? On top or at the bottom?

Hi,
it's too high in the frame, I'd also darken it a bit, it looks very bright.

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RE: Centered Rejection?

Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:31 pm



Quoting UA935 (Reply 3):
If you would like to explain how soft and oversharpened rejections go together go ahead

Why would they not go together?

Nobody says that your image is both soft and oversharpened as a whole. Some parts appear soft (they really do - especially the upper part of the fuselage), while other parts may seem oversharpened. I have to admit though that I do not see much oversharpening in your shot, but then again, I often fail to see oversharpened parts...

Anyway, I have this problem rather regularly when sharpening pictures - some parts already show jaggies, while others still appear soft.

As for the centering, I would agree that the first impression when looking at the picture is that it may be a tad too high in the frame.
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RE: Centered Rejection?

Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:25 pm



Quoting Boeingfreak (Reply 9):

Thanks.

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RE: Centered Rejection?

Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:53 am



Quoting UA935 (Thread starter):

Aircraft is a little high in frame, you missed more "sky on top".

Quoting UA935 (Reply 5):
Why not just use "Blurry" then which is for OOF?

When its OOF or under sharpen you can sharpen more and easily correct the picture issue, but a blurry shot, mostly, its a lost case scenario, as when picture was taken everything is-looks as "shaken" and no sharpening can save that.

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 8):

A little high in frame too, crop on the bottom, btw, a little 0.2/3 CW rotation would also help!

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