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ptrjong
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Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:20 pm

Hi all,

In late April/early May I'll go on holiday to the Cinque Terre coast in SW Italy. I'm thinking of driving there and back by car from Holland in a couple of days, probably through Southern Germany, Switzerland or Western Austria one way and the other way through the Cote d'Azur and Eastern France.

I'm looking for information on photo spots/security issues for the following places on the Italian/French coast in particular:

Sarzana/La Spezia
Genova (Genoa)
Imperia heliport (location?)
Monaco heliport
Nice
Toulon-Hyeres

I'd also appreciate tips on your favourite civil or military airfields for photography (considering photo spots, scenery, security issues, and air traffic), or aviation museums, that you think make easy and worthwile stops for a few hours in S Germany, Switzerland, W Austria, N Italy, and E France.

I don't need widebodies - anything beyond a general aviation airfield is nice if gets decent air traffic and photo opportunities are OK.

Since this is so broad, I haven't done much searching yet - I hope you can get me started.

Thanks

Peter Smile
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RE: Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:34 pm

I spent some time this fall at Meiringen in Switzerland. I don't know how busy it is (you can look up the schedule of who will be there each week on the Swiss Air Force website) but the access is very good and being in a valley makes for some cool background opportunities.

Meiringen

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RE: Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:58 pm

Hi Peter,

I've been in South-Western Italy this year with school and it was quite nice. Especially Cinque Terre coast is great...

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Though I was quite busy on this trip with sightseeing etc, I had some time for spotting or at least visiting the airports.
I've been to La Spezia (QLP) and Florence (FLR). Spotting in QLP is very difficult. I found a good spot outside the airport at the fence but some airport staff saw me hanging around there and called some police or military police (don't know) which sent me away.

You should also take Florence into consideration which is not too far away from La Spezia and the Cinque Terre coast (~ 1 hour by our old bus). The airport is small but the background is really nice and the traffic is ok. Saw Meridiana (MDs and A319), Austrian (Dash), Lufthansa (Avro), Cityjet (Avro), Alitalia (ATR, MD, A319), DAT (ATR), Eurofly (A319), some nice business airplanes and I-ECJA.

Depending on the rute you'll take to get there, you could also make spotting stops in Stuttgart, Basel and Milano (Linate).
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RE: Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:53 pm

Hi Peter,

Some advice re. Austria and Cote d'Azur:

Austria in May / April.....sucks in terms of traffic unfortunately. I can't really speak for SZG, but INN hasn't got much interesting. Winter charter flights are long gone and summer charter doesn't start really except for a few flights.

Cote d'Azur...: Monaco heliport might be worth a visit if you're into helos, even though it's not really easy to get a good background scenery from the pier where you can shoot hassle-free.

Flights are regular, mostly to Cannes and Nice Apt I think. The helipad is facing south, so best would be either in the morning or in the early afternoon of course. It's usually quite relaxing there, and there's a nice yacht harbour nearby (not the main port of Monaco though), in case you or any members of your family fancy looking at some big boats  Smile

Nice Airport is a bit tricky without ramp access, because again, you'd shoot into the sun all day except for the afternoon. If you fancy bizjets, you can shoot over the perimeter fence along the promenade d'englais (spelling?), but you'd need a step ladder I fear.

For approach shots (when rwy 04L / R is in use, which is 80% of the time I think), you can shoot from a beach near the shopping mall "Cape 3000", located west of Nice and the airport. Again, take the family with you for some sun and fun if you want, but don't expect anything fantastic, the beach is not a really beautiful one.

Hope that helps,
take care!
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RE: Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:45 pm

Many thanks for your replies and helping shape the route.

I think I'll follow the Rhine to Basle (maybe BSL). Then there's a cool route through Switzerland: Emmen (LMSE) - Lucerne (Transport Museum) - Stans (LSMU) - Meiringen (LSMM) - Locarno (LSZL) - Lake Como floatplane station (LILY).

A really lazy question, will I need to buy the Swiss motorway permit just for this ride?

On the Med coast, Nice is not so great then, Genoa (GOA) has a similar difficult layout, and Hyeres seems too quiet these days. I found the Imperia Eliporto at 43°53'3"N 8°1'42"E though and another place I seem to like is Albenga (LIMG):

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Cannes (LFMD) and Marseilles (MRS) are interesting I think, and from Marseilles I can follow the Rhone valley north, with museums I'd like to check out at Montelimar and Savigny-les-Beaune.

More suggestions roughly along this route are very welcome.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
If you fancy bizjets

No, I shoot them as collateral damage only Smile

Quoting INNflight (Reply 3):
if you're into helos

Yes, especially military /police/government/ambulance/airline helicopters, not so much the anonymous ones.

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RE: Alps Region/Cote D'Azur Trip

Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:17 am



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 4):
A really lazy question, will I need to buy the Swiss motorway permit just for this ride?

Yes, I believe Meiringen is on one of the motorways. The rental car company told me it was, but then they were charging me 4.50 CHF per day for a permit that cost them 40 CHF per year.  Wow!

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