eadster
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Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:06 am

I've really seen some weird things here but this one I can't understand.

I uploaded this picture recently, as it has a new job and thought it may be interesting for the site:

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You can find other pics from its former country and job here as it saves me listing them all here :

Now my shot was rejected, as the screener said: "Info = airline should be "Helilink / Westpac Trust". Please use Auto-Complete on upload page to fill in info."

This info is now incorrect, as Westpac used to sponsor the aircraft when it was doing search and rescue in its previous country. It is now operated on behalf of the Aus Government. Westpac now has nothing to do with this chopper. What is not to understand?

I work in conjunction with these people The helicopter crew and our crew do the same job and I know that Westpac have nothing to do with our job, so why should it be included in the details? Details change on aircraft that are previously uploaded.

It's in the same situation as this aircraft. It used to be sponsored for SAR and now its not doing that role:


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Works for the same company as it did, but now used under different roles.

I posted here because I explained this on the appeal, but I wasn't listened too.

Thanks

Martin.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:28 am

How about appealing and giving the explanation there?
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eadster
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:29 am



Quoting TransIsland (Reply 1):
How about appealing and giving the explanation there?

I did. That's why I posted here.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:44 am

you included no information when you appealed the shot, which is an automatic rejection.

was also rejected as being oversharpened.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:25 am



Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 3):
you included no information when you appealed the shot, which is an automatic rejection.

I filled the comment box on the appeal page. So I'm guessing it did not come through?

I would have thought from the look of this picture and the older ones, it would be pretty self explainitory, that the details I uploaded with, made sense.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:48 am



Quoting Eadster (Thread starter):
Now my shot was rejected, as the screener said: "Info = airline should be "Helilink / Westpac Trust". Please use Auto-Complete on upload page to fill in info."

I have gotten a few rejections because the auto fill filled in the wrong stuff. Did you select I would like to add my own info the add to the upload page. Just trying to figure why the screener told you to use the auto fill box when on the side of the helo it says customs.
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eadster
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:32 am



Quoting Paulinbna (Reply 5):
Just trying to figure why the screener told you to use the auto fill box when on the side of the helo it says customs.

Beats me. All I did was remove the "Westpac Trust" from the airline field as its not relevant anymore.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:57 am



Quoting Eadster (Reply 6):
Beats me. All I did was remove the "Westpac Trust" from the airline field as its not relevant anymore.

Not sure why but that will do it I think, The "system" is pretty strict about altering Auto add fields, would likely have been better to manually enter HeliLink or Helilink-Australian Customs.

And this crappy temp monitor precludes me from commenting on Royal's overshapened comment.

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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:38 am

If it is oversharpened, then it's not by much. There are some halos in a few areas, but nothing that you can't find on numerous photos that have been accepted in recent times.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:28 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 7):
The "system" is pretty strict about altering Auto add fields, would likely have been better to manually enter HeliLink or Helilink-Australian Customs.

Seems like even if I'd have done that it would have been wrong. This "system" as I said, is not really great, as aircraft operators change and so does the role of aircraft from time to time.

So do I try an upload again, with just Helilink in the airline field?

Quoting Cpd (Reply 8):
There are some halos in a few areas,

Where?? Cause nothing was changed in the editing of the pic that would have introduced halos...
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:33 am

Hello Martin.

Given the technical problems with the site over recent times, I am sure there will be many who could quite believe you did add a comment in your appeal but it somehow disappeared in transit to the Head Screeners.

I wonder whether it might be beneficial to add another sentence to the new upload page in the bullet point about the 'Auto Complete function' in the 'How to improve the chances of success' section, words to the effect that:

'....it still remains your responsibility to check the accuracy of the resulting information. If you notice that the information generated is now incorrect, please add a note to the the screeners about this when you upload your image.'

That way screeners will have their attention drawn to the potential conflict between the Auto Complete-generated information and what the uploader is submitting, and they can then do their own further checks as they see fit. Also, A.net is further clarifying for its uploaders their responsibilities.

All the best.

Paul
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:48 pm



Quoting Eadster (Reply 9):
Where?? Cause nothing was changed in the editing of the pic that would have introduced halos...

I see them around Customs and the Australian flag on the door, and also along the edges of the stripe on the side.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:34 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 11):
I see them around Customs and the Australian flag on the door, and also along the edges of the stripe on the side.

Thanks, but I did check at from here its Halo free.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:59 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 11):
I see them around Customs and the Australian flag on the door, and also along the edges of the stripe on the side.

No disrespect, Eadster, but I see them too. However, I also agree with:

Quoting Cpd (Reply 8):
If it is oversharpened, then it's not by much... nothing that you can't find on numerous photos that have been accepted in recent times.

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RE: Help Me Understand...

Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:01 am



Quoting Eadster (Reply 12):
Thanks, but I did check at from here its Halo free.

By the way, I don't want to seem disrespectful - just want to be clear on that. Sorry if it did seem so.
 
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RE: Help Me Understand...

Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:50 am



Quoting Cpd (Reply 14):
By the way, I don't want to seem disrespectful - just want to be clear on that. Sorry if it did seem so.

Why would you think that?? My reply was probably a bit off. To be honest I was more worried about the info rather than the other minor details. Sorry if it seemed that I didn't appreciate the help as I did.

The shot has been re-uploaded with some changes made to both info and the shot itself. We'll see if my explanation of the info change will go through this time.

Thanks all for the help.

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