monteycarlos
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Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:15 am

Hi All,

Probably a question more specific to the Aussie photographers around these parts but any help would be appreciated.

I have the EF 100-400L lens, and whilst I like it a lot, I've come to the realisation that as I will be no longer working at the airport, the justification for having it in my kit is gone.

I wish to trade it in for the EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS, and possibly later on buy the 2.0x or even 1.4x converter which will give me a greater flexibility. My 100-400 is in excellent condition, probably only a couple of hundred shots taken on it and no visible marks / damage. I've still got all the packaging and warranty material (even the plastic bags the lens was wrapped in) so that should help. I can't take it back to the original retailer as they were an online store.  Sad

Does anyone know a retailer around that would be willing to accept the lens as a trade-in for a new 70-200 f/2.8L? I don't really want to go through the hassle of putting it on eBay or selling it privately, however I am also slightly worried of being shafted on a trade-in deal.

Any other information that might be of help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Carl
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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:52 am

No offense, but why would you trade the EF 100-400 L IS for a EF 70-200 f/2.8 L IS + a 1.4x or 2x converter? the 70-200 f/2.8 with a 1.4 equals a 98-280 f/4 and a 2x equals a 140-400 f/5.6 with far lesser quality. Wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the 100-400?

Sorry if I didn't completely understand.

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:54 am



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 1):
Sorry if I didn't completely understand.

Perhaps the 100-400 is too much lens for his needs? I would say the 70-200mm is a better fit in more areas of photography outside of aviation. Like he said, the 1.4x combination allows more flexibility.
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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:59 am



Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 2):
Perhaps the 100-400 is too much lens for his needs? I would say the 70-200mm is a better fit in more areas of photography outside of aviation. Like he said, the 1.4x combination allows more flexibility.

Ah...I see.

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:48 am

Hey Carl:

I would avoid trading in the lens at all costs. Retailers offer only about 50% of the resale value on a trade-in. If you consign it, they will likely give you more. However, you can pocket all the money by selling it yourself.

I recently had to sell quite a bit of kit - D2x, D200, 10.5mm, 12-24mm, and battery grip. I put everything on Craig's list, and a fellow photographer put a poster up for me at a pro photo processing outlet. Everything sold in a few days at the asking price! I priced competitively but not cheaply and I refused to haggle. After all, I knew what local retailers were going to charge for my used gear and the high prices they wanted weren't hard for me to beat while still keeping more of my money!

You can also put posters at local camera clubs, schools that offer photo courses etc. All of these channels are free.

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:52 pm



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 1):
Wouldn't it make more sense to just keep the 100-400?

For aviation photography alone, yes it would but I need it for more than that and it simply is too big. I'd get more use out of a f/2.8 70-200.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 2):
I would say the 70-200mm is a better fit in more areas of photography outside of aviation.

The exact reason... I could use the wide aperture for many of the shots I like to take and its quite a flexible lens with TC's on it.

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 4):
I would avoid trading in the lens at all costs. Retailers offer only about 50% of the resale value on a trade-in. If you consign it, they will likely give you more. However, you can pocket all the money by selling it yourself.

Hey Bill! How are you? Good idea... I was worried about what kind of price I would get on a trade-in. I'll have to see what I can do with some of the local clubs. Failing that I might just have to list it somewhere.
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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:50 am



Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 5):
Hey Bill! How are you?

Probably not as warm as you are! It was minus 19 C and snowing this morning...

Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 5):
Failing that I might just have to list it somewhere.

Craig's list is free. www.craigslist.org - but you might get some weirdos from Nigeria offering to buy it, just ignore them. I got several "I'll pay 20% more than asking price and $300 for shipping if you send it to my daughter who is studying in Nigeria" messages.

Happy haggling!  Big grin

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:35 am



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 6):
Craig's list is free. www.craigslist.org - but you might get some weirdos from Nigeria offering to buy it

I personally would avoid craislist as it really has become home of the scammer  Sad

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:56 am



Quoting Spoogle (Reply 7):
I personally would avoid craislist as it really has become home of the scammer

With Craigslist you have to make sure transactions take place in person in the form of cash. That's really the safest way.
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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:28 pm



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 6):
Probably not as warm as you are! It was minus 19 C and snowing this morning...

And to think that this time next year I am considering heading to Canada for that very reason!  Smile

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 6):
Craig's list is free. www.craigslist.org - but you might get some weirdos from Nigeria offering to buy it, just ignore them. I got several "I'll pay 20% more than asking price and $300 for shipping if you send it to my daughter who is studying in Nigeria" messages.

Ok, I'll have a look and see how I go.  Smile

Quoting Spoogle (Reply 7):
I feel the only way is to bite the bullet and go E*** !

That can be a last resort... I fear that as soon as I tick the 'used' category in eBay I am going to lose out on the price.

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 8):
With Craigslist you have to make sure transactions take place in person in the form of cash. That's really the safest way.

Ok I'll keep that in mind.

Just out of interest for those of you familiar with Canon equipment, how much should I be looking at for my 100-400? As I said, its in 'near-new' condition, no visible marks or scratches, all original boxes and packaging. I was hoping to only lose a couple of hundred $AUD off it...
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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:44 am



Quoting Monteycarlos (Reply 9):
That can be a last resort... I fear that as soon as I tick the 'used' category in eBay I am going to lose out on the price.

I did pretty well when i sold my 100-400mm , i only lost around $30 on the deal  Smile

however you do get hit with the fees !

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RE: Lens Trade In Question

Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:04 pm



Quoting Monteycarlos (Thread starter):
I wish to trade it in for the EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS, and possibly later on buy the 2.0x or even 1.4x converter which will give me a greater flexibility.

 checkmark  I agree. I contemplated getting the 100-400, and granted the reach is beautiful. But the teleconverter only made sense since the only time I mount it to the lens is when I'm near the airport. The 70-200 f/2.8 IS alone is a lens in a class by itself, and I cannot imagine not having it in my kit. But, given the right conditions, the lens and the TC coupled make a very nice match as evidenced:


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Canon EOS 30D / 70-200 f/2.8 L IS USM / 2x II TC @ 400mm

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Brandon
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