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Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:13 am

Very cool:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2AYXS0AUTUP6N/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

Over $5000! Crazy. How many people on this forum own this lens? What is your opinion on it?
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:18 am

I would love to have that lens - but there is no way I can afford it, unless I give up the morning coffee and other assorted luxuries.

I almost could have had one at AUD$4800 - it was 2nd hand but in very good condition.. I should have got it.
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:52 am

Too big, too heavy, too expensive for me. My Nikkor 80-400 VR, while nowhere near as good, is good enough to get shots accepted here.
Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:58 pm



I know a few here have that lens. wink 

Yes, it is big. Yes, it is heavy. Yes, it is expensive. It is also very, very good.
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:41 pm

I'd say a lot of people would like to have this lens.

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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:39 pm

I have it, i love it.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
Yes, it is big. Yes, it is heavy. Yes, it is expensive. It is also very, very good.

altough i would rather say excellent than good, i fully agree.

cheers, Denis

PS: Doesn´t fit into CRJ Cockpits, also....
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:52 pm



Quoting Beechcraft (Reply 5):
Doesn´t fit into CRJ Cockpits

You should start to fly real jets...........
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:47 pm

Vasco,

i´m trying to....let´s see what 2008 has in mind....

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Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:54 pm



Quoting Beechcraft (Reply 7):
i´m trying to....let´s see what 2008 has in mind....

Denis,

A or B?

Back to the topic.....Moose Peterson seems to love his lens
http://www.moosepeterson.com/gear/200-400vr.html

Vasco
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:00 pm

I have one and won't part with it.

Best lens I have for outdoor field sports like football, soccer, baseball. Lots of flexibility in focal length but also sharp. nto great for indoor sports like hockey, for that I switch to the 300 f/2.8.

For aviation it is a bit intimidating to use on a ladder in the back of my truck with a monopod, but you get used to it pretty fast.
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:22 pm

i just go to the camera store and get my hands on it whenever I can.
A good bit of workout if considering hand held shooting which tinkering with the zoom rings as you pan this thing, you're bound to get some stiff cramps at the end.

Here in canada it is $5500CA, too pricey for me.
You can also rent it for a day for $100 but need a $2500 deposit just incase the worst happens.
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:32 am

Does this lens have a way to attach a filter to the fornt? If so, what is the filter diameter? I'm not sure, since the filter apparently slides into the back of the lens.

Here http://www.nikonimaging.com/global/p..._vr_zoom200-400mmf_4g_if/index.htm
it says:

External front filter: N/A
Built-in/rear filter: 52mm screw-in, rear-attachment type

If the lens does not accept a filter on the front, how is the glass at the front protected from scratches?

[Edited 2008-01-29 22:35:06]
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:22 am

First, a couple comments on his review:
- he said the focus limiter switch limits the zoom, then said it limits it to 6mm to infinity. No, it limits the focus range (not the zoom) to 6m to infinity. It does not even focus as close as 6mm - I think minimum focus distance is 7 feet.
- He completely lost it on the M/A vs M focus mode. He states the M/A mode lets you focus automatically or override it by pressing the buttons on front of the lens. Uh, no. You can manually override the autofocus on any Nikkor AF-S lens by simply rotating the focus ring. The buttons on the front of the lens are focus recall buttons. You can set them to a specific focus distance, then when needed just push any one of them to instantly take the focal distance to that point again. For instance, you're shooting a bike race by an exciting corner. Focus on the corner, set the focus preset. Now you can shoot all you like around the track, but every time a bike goes into that corner, just hit one of the focus preset buttons and you don't have to worry about the autofocus hunting back and forth.

Quoting Jawed (Thread starter):
How many people on this forum own this lens?

Count one more here.

Quoting Jawed (Thread starter):
What is your opinion on it?

I think Scbriml said it quite well:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 3):
It is also very, very good.

 checkmark  Twenty four elements worth of good!

Quoting Jawed (Reply 11):
Does this lens have a way to attach a filter to the fornt? If so, what is the filter diameter?

No, filters such as polarizers go into the slip-in filter holder at the back. The polarizer comes in its own carrier with an external wheel so you can adjust polarization without removing the filter. You can use just about any 52mm filter in here, but generally it has to be a thin-mount version or it may not fit through the filter opening.

PS: I think the front element is about 124mm and I don't think it is threaded....

Quoting Jawed (Reply 11):
If the lens does not accept a filter on the front, how is the glass at the front protected from scratches?

For the price, it's a safe bet that people are extra careful when swinging this lens around. Big grin But the lens comes with a protective front element called a meniscus lens. Basically it is a shaped element (not flat optical quality glass like most filters) but the lens can be used without it - there's even a storage pouch included. The filter ships already attached to the lens but it isn't obvious, so a lot of people phone Nikon support when they get home and state that they didn't receive one with their lens!

Lens info on nikonimaging.com

Meniscus lens illustrated on Wikipedia

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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:39 am

Let me see if I understand this. Are you saying that the front-most element of the lens does act as a protective element, and if it should become scratched or damaged, it can easily be replaced? If I were to get this lens I want to make sure that (although I would be careful) if something WERE to scratch the front, I'm not down $5000  Wink

Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 12):
But the lens comes with a protective front element called a meniscus lens. Basically it is a shaped element (not flat optical quality glass like most filters) but the lens can be used without it

 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:42 am

I just saw on this page:

http://www.europe-nikon.com/product/...B/products/broad/635/overview.html

that it says "Protective, removable glass element included". That would be a very good thing to have.

By the way CalgaryBill, would you agree that it is reasonable to use this lens for handheld shots for a period of time (say 1 hour), if you are not a body builder?

[Edited 2008-01-29 23:44:15]
 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:46 am



Quoting Jawed (Reply 14):
By the way CalgaryBill, would you agree that it is reasonable to use this lens for handheld shots for a period of time (say 1 hour), if you are not a body builder?

I know Canadians are all tough, outdoor types, but if I were hand-holding this lens for an extended period of time, it would make my arms ache. Try holding a 3.5kg weight at arm's length and see how long you can hold it.

I used this lens at RIAT last year, and I did find it tough trying to chase small, fast jets around the sky, but I'll be trying again this year! When using this lens for departure shots from Heathrow, I simply put the camera down between departures, I don't hold it all the time (and you'll get neck/back ache if you try keeping it round your neck, and it's too cumbersome to keep over your shoulder.)

So yes, you can hand-hold (I wouldn't want to go below 1/500th) and get great results. But it is big and heavy, not easy to swing around in a crowd.

All IMHO of course. smile 
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:45 pm



Quoting CalgaryBill (Reply 12):
For the price, it's a safe bet that people are extra careful when swinging this lens around. But the lens comes with a protective front element called a meniscus lens.

The lens hood is also quite substantial and offers a good degree of protection.
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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:10 pm



Quoting Jawed (Reply 14):
By the way CalgaryBill, would you agree that it is reasonable to use this lens for handheld shots for a period of time (say 1 hour), if you are not a body builder?

Well, I'm about forty pounds overweight and I hand held it for the morning and afternoon rounds at Axalp (1.5 hours each, and that's after carrying the lens up the mountain) and the Abbotsford airshow (four hours with short breaks between performances). I probably walked like a caveman by the end of each day, but no, I didn't pull any muscles, didn't have to see a chiropractor, and didn't walk away swearing I needed a lighter lens.

I do use a monopod or Whimberley when shooting with this lens, but aircraft at events like Axalp and airshows are moving too fast for an old guy like me to keep up with a tripod or monopod in the way. The tri/monopod are great for stuff like approach shots and slower moving sports like football.

Quoting Jawed (Reply 13):
Are you saying that the front-most element of the lens does act as a protective element, and if it should become scratched or damaged, it can easily be replaced?

 checkmark  As mentioned above, it's called a meniscus lens, it pulls off with no tools, and comes with a protective pouch in case you decide not to use it. It is easy to remove, but being a dedicated element to this lens, it's probably expensive to replace.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 15):
So yes, you can hand-hold (I wouldn't want to go below 1/500th) and get great results. But it is big and heavy, not easy to swing around in a crowd.

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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:29 pm

Is the Manfrotto 55 a good tripod for this lens? Which head would be best to use for this tripod and lens?
 
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Nikkor 200-400 Demo Video

Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:25 am



Quoting Jawed (Reply 18):
Is the Manfrotto 55 a good tripod for this lens? Which head would be best to use for this tripod and lens?

Didn't you already ask that in reply #13 below?
Tripod Recommendations? (by Jawed Jan 24 2008 in Aviation Photography)

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RE: Nikkor 200-400mm Demonstration Video

Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:10 am

Oops, got it -- didn't see the Wimberley part.

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