NWA783
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Upgrade Possible

Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:15 pm

I recently received an Olympus E VOLT E-500 for Christmas from my parents. Its only 8 mega pixels and just doesn't seem to have the quality that i need to get my photo's uploaded here. I am wondering if there is anyway to upgrade my camera's mega pixels short of buying a whole new camera.

Thanks Much

Josh
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Megapixels mean literally nothing, it's sensor quality and lens quality that makes the difference. There are hundreds of thousands of pictures on this site from 4, 5, and 6 MP cameras. A megapixel is a million pixels IIRC, the more mega pixels, the bigger the size of the photo. Megapixels mean more when cropping as you can crop in more from high mp cameras without losing much quality than with mid to low MP cameras.

I'm not familair with Olympus, is the E-500 a SLR type or advanced point and shoot? If the latter I'd save my money and buy a entry-level DSLR and buy some good lenses to go with it.

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RE: Upgrade Possible

Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:39 pm

Hi Josh,

It simply isn't possible. However, the megapixel count should be the least of your considerations - and 8MP is way more than sufficient for airliners.net.

There are several Olympus E-System photographers here - I'm an E-510 user myself - and the camera and kit lenses are of very good standard. Arguably, they might have more noise issues than equivalent offerings with larger sensors (how much, however, is a subject of a great deal of debate!) but they are very portable pieces of kit as a result of the smaller size and mass obtained through a smaller lens format.

Let's see some of your results before you chuck it - if you search for my name, you might see some of mine. If you search for 'E-500', you'll find plenty of other (and far more creative) shots.

Any more questions, just ask.  Smile

Cheers,

Toni
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waketurbulence
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:39 pm

8 megapixels is plenty to upload a shot at Anet's resolution requirements. Do you have the proper editing technique yet?
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:44 pm



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 1):
is the E-500 a SLR type or advanced point and shoot

...the former...

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 1):
entry-level DSLR

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Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 3):
Do you have the proper editing technique yet?

The million-dollar question!

 Smile
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:11 am

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NWA783
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:08 am

Riight now I use adobe photoshop cs3. But I'm probably not the best at using it yet. If you guys have any tips on editing I would really appreciate it.

Thanks much

Josh
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jorge1812
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:07 am

If you buy camera gear just to get pics accepted here you really should think if this hobby is the right for you. show us some rejections and we'll tell you why not the camera is the problem for you.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/PsProc.pdf

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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:08 pm

When I first got my old 350D I stuck it on auto (for some nutty reason unknown to me!) for my first photo-shoot and the results were awful. I was appalled at how such an expensive and complex machine could churn out such garbage. I tried next on P mode and that wasn't much better. Within a week I saw sense and went back to my old 35mm roots by selecting Av (aperture priority). I subsequently began to slowly tinker with every setting, until (easily) 12 months later I got my images EXACTLY how I wanted them - and to be honest I still learn the odd new trick here and there simply by experimenting.

Basically, the more complex the camera, the more experimenting you need to do, and that unfortunately can take a lot of time and screw up a lot of photo's along the way!

Karl
 
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:12 pm



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 8):
the more complex the camera, the more experimenting you need to do

Or learn the basics of photography and read the camera manual? Avoids all that wasted time...
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:48 pm



Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
Or learn the basics of photography and read the camera manual? Avoids all that wasted time...

I read the manual back-to-front but never did it say...

"When standing in Joe's Field at MAN, you must check the position of the sun and any cloud, then go to 1/3 of a stop down with centre-weighted metering..."

It's all very well knowing how each little function works, but how and when to apply them is something only experimenting can do. Reading the manual helps of course, but getting out and having a fiddle in differing conditions I found was the real key to good results. There's some things the manual simply cannot advise. I don't know about anyone else but I'm still learning all the time, more often than not by playing around when, for instance, the sun pops in for five. I don't believe anyone who says they are no longer learning.

In addition, my current 30D settings are a lot different to those of my old 350D - knowing the basics of photography doesn't necessarily familiarise you with each and every model of camera.

Karl
 
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:45 pm



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 10):
read the manual back-to-front

Um, I hope you also read this, which covers the problems you mention:

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
learn the basics of photography

Much better than "fiddling" (in the dark).
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JakTrax
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:55 pm

Whichever way works best for the individual I'd say. I think experimentation gives a better understanding of the basics of photography. Had I six years ago read a book it would have been a hell of a lot to take in and I'd probably be none the wiser today. However these days I can refer back to a photography book and see exactly where it's coming from. For me, fiddling has given me a far greater understanding, and I guess it'll continue to do so.

Some folks just haven't got the capacity to sit and read a book - I'd rather get out there and learn by my mistakes.

Each to their own.....

Karl
 
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:44 pm



Quoting JakTrax (Reply 12):
Each to their own.....

Correct but I hope many here think as I do that changing gear after only one month b/c pics are rejected here is a very bad way.

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RE: Upgrade Possible

Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:57 pm



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13):
Correct but I hope many here think as I do that changing gear after only one month b/c pics are rejected here is a very bad way.

Yes, I think basic understanding of photography would be very helpful in this case.
Playing around with settings always helps, but reading up is very beneficial as well.

Ivan
 
viv
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:31 am



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13):
changing gear after only one month b/c pics are rejected here is a very bad way.

Yes! Like buying a new hammer after one week ob bad carpentry.
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JakTrax
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RE: Upgrade Possible

Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:48 pm



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 13):
changing gear after only one month b/c pics are rejected here is a very bad way.

Yep. I would put money on the fact that the OP is doing something wrong. This Oly is not a bad camera if used correctly. I have seen many sparkling images taken with it.

First, read the manual. Then read it again. Take it with you on your airport trips so it's easy to refer to if needed. Finally, get fiddling.....

Karl

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