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Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:22 am

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I've got this in the queue at the moment, but I'm worried that some motive issue will result in it not being accepted. Is it OK?

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:45 am



Quoting Opso1 (Thread starter):
but I'm worried

Don't be, it is fine photo and I am glad I saw it.
If the site does not accept it, that is not always a criticism of the photo.
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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:20 am

Opso,

I see the following issues with your shot: backlit (dark), softness, grain and empty space above the cockpit (motive).

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:04 am



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
empty space above the cockpit

With all due respect Thierry, tell me how the motive(or the artistic merit) would be improved by reducing that.

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:54 am

If closeups/tight crops around the cockpit windows of large airliners like the 747 are acceptable here, then I don't see why this should be any different. However, I do agree with the grain comment above.
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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:02 pm

It's a nice shot but the grain will lead to a rejection.

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:13 pm



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 2):
backlit (dark), softness, grain and empty space above the cockpit (motive).

I agree with Thierry, but I still like the shot! Close-ups will always remain a very subjective motiv, some like it, some don't...
I would also prefer somewhat less empty space above the canopy...

I had this one rejected long time ago:


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I have no idea whether it would be acceptable under the relaxed motiv rules?

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:23 pm



Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 6):
I would also prefer somewhat less empty space above the canopy...

Once again, with all due respect..
The Anet policy of cropping to "within a pixel of it's life" can only be taken so far.
I had a go at cropping Opso1's image a little tighter and it did not work for me.(admittedly I did not have access to the original)
I think the photo as posted properly places the working aircraft within it's environment.

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Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 5):
grain will lead to a rejection.

I am not commenting on the quality/grain criteria
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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:31 pm

[quote=Walter2222,reply=6]I
Walter, yes I, would think that has a chance under the changed rules. You're certainly allowed to retry.

I would prefer somewhat more empty space above your canopy, though Wink

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:34 pm



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 3):
With all due respect Thierry, tell me how the motive(or the artistic merit) would be improved by reducing that.

Chris, I know what you mean but I didn't comment with regards to my personal taste but only how I think A.net screeners will see it and they mostly like closer crops.

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:55 pm



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
Walter, yes I, would think that has a chance under the changed rules. You're certainly allowed to retry.

But it would get "double" today,because I remember now that I uploaded another shot (shot taken same day, same side of the aircraft) of the T-Bird...

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
I would prefer somewhat more empty space above your canopy, though

I agree, Peter, I would too, but unfortunately this was as it was shot, no cropping performed...

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:22 pm

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I've used Neat Image to get rid of some of the grain. Leaving the space at the top shows that the aircraft is on board an aircraft carrier rather than on land- something a bit different (not that something different is to everyones liking!).

Is this any better?

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RE: Harrier Cockpit- Motive?

Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:38 pm



Quoting Opso1 (Reply 11):
Leaving the space at the top shows that the aircraft is on board an aircraft carrier rather than on land- something a bit different (not that something different is to everyones liking!).

Agreed, but that ocean must play hell with your exposure.

Quoting Opso1 (Reply 11):
I've used Neat Image to get rid of some of the grain.

Kind of kills the quality of the image...there are noticable artifacts in the photo right below the canopy.
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