timdegroot
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Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:13 pm

Hi All

We are currently in the process of hiring new screeners. The major website problems are now behind us and screening is working 100% again and we're in the process of bringing the queue down. To ensure we can keep it low in the future we are looking for 2 or more people to join us in the coming months.

We will be hiring you for a training period during which you will be taught the ropes. After that period we'll either part ways if we think it's not going to work out, or make you a full screener after which a monitor will be supplied to you to be used for screening.

We are looking for long term commitment. Screening will take abut 30-45 minutes of your day on average (minimum). Most screeners of course spend much more time Wink

If anyone is interested please send an email to headscreeners@airliners.net

The email should contain the following

real name
username
age
link to your photos
short description of your experience in photography
a short motivation on why we should choose you

Deadline for applications is august 31st.

Looking forward to some responses, and please post any questions here.

On behalf of the screening team
Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:34 pm

That's good news Tim  bigthumbsup 

Hope you find the right people soon!

regards  Smile
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:26 pm

Very good idea Tim.

But maybe can you give us some more information about what you want from the new screeners
Minimum age?
Minum number of pics in DB?
At least xx- year active in aviation photography?
Some information like that........

I am very interested in helping Anet forward, but if I have just a little feeling of wasting my time, by emailing the sceening team, I won't do that.
Speaking myself; I am a photographer since 1988, with 3000+ pics, waiting to get scanned and edited for uploading, but I have just 6 pics in the DB  Wink
If you only need some help by selecting the "garbage" from the rest of the uploaded pics or really do good qualified screening is quitte a difference.

I hope you understand what I mean.

Freek
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:34 pm

There are no hard requirements. Obviously we're looking for people who are familiar with our standards and have high acceptance ratios.

Some screeners that started with us had 30 years of experience, some had only 2-3 years. There's no rules to the making of a great screeners.


Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Forgot to add something.

We cannot accept applications from people working for competing websites.

Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:21 pm

Tim, I'd be careful about 'discriminating' applications.

Woman play golf too.  Wink



Please define 'competing' and not 'complimentary'.

Johan's website was a 'private' website, wasn't it?

It isn't now.
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:25 pm



Quoting Lennymuir (Reply 5):
Johan's website was a 'private' website, wasn't it?

I don't think Johan ever considered our largest "competitor" "complementary" though Wink

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:39 pm

Tim, you should take discrimination seriously.

eg: Airteamimages / photo.aero / jp / airplane-pictures

What are you really saying?

Which of the above need not apply.
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:43 am

que at 3900 and you need more screeners?

more like you need more photographers uploading photos...  Wink
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:37 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 8):

more like you need more photographers uploading photos... Wink

Don't say that!!! I had to wait almost 2 weeks for my last batch of photos to be screened... Let us revel in the low queue right now!  Smile
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:08 am

Thanks Tim for the post. Great to hear a Head Screener saying the screening is operating at 100%  Smile
..finally.
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:16 am



Quoting Deeplight (Reply 10):
Thanks Tim for the post. Great to hear a Head Screener saying the screening is operating at 100% Smile
..finally.

 thumbsup  jep, looks like. The queue is getting shorter and shorter! And now all photographers can come back and start uploading again.

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:26 am

The standard monitor is sent out once a screener has got through the period of training.
New screeners are mentored by a more experienced screener taking them through a few batches, generally talking them through together using Skype which gives a good grounding, sometimes even by two screeners with the trainee in a three way talk. This in itself is a way to establish the correct quality levels. They are then closely monitored, particularly by the Head screeners but by us all to a lesser degree.
If you have your images screened by a trainee, you are informed and are encouraged to appeal if you disagree with rejections or, less likely, acceptances  Smile

One issue that has not been mentioned......
It would not be difficult to find competent photographers to screen but a sound general knowledge of aviation is also important as you would be expected to screen images of any type of aircraft, not just what may be your speciality.

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:42 am

Under competing websites we understand all photo databases that are set up like a.net, JP, PP and all the smaller sites. Any other sites, commercial sites, spotting groups, personal sites etc are fine.

Really we dont want to discriminate, anyone can apply

Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:55 am



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 13):
Really we dont want to discriminate, anyone can apply

I'm looking for a new screen can I apply?
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:33 am

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 11):
And now all photographers can come back and start uploading again.

I think it's too late for most of us who were fed up with everything to return to uploading.

But good luck future screeners, you'll see some interesting photos....  Wink

[Edited 2008-08-18 04:35:00]
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:46 am

Hello

Quoting Apgphoto (Reply 14):
I'm looking for a new screen can I apply?

No.

Regards

Gary
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:50 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 8):
more like you need more photographers uploading photos...

Ever heard of quality not quanity Monty?  crazy 

Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 15):
I think it's too late for most of us who were fed up with everything to return to uploading

Shame Justin, I enjoyed your stuff, but I echo good luck to applicants.
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:21 pm



Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 15):
I think it's too late for most of us who were fed up with everything to return to uploading.

And that's very sad  Sad I heard many photographers say: once A.net is back to normal I will start to upload again...
And now I do really hope this happens  pray 

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:21 pm



Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 15):
I think it's too late for most of us who were fed up with everything to return to uploading.

Personally speaking, I had stopped uploading for a good while but I have put a few through the queue in the last couple of weeks and I will continue to upload occasionally.

Charles
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:00 pm



Quoting Granite (Reply 16):
No.

Regards

Gary

C'mon, he was only kidding, Gary.  Wink
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:59 pm

Hello

Quoting Dvincent (Reply 20):
C'mon, he was only kidding, Gary.

Yes, I know that  Smile

Regards

Gary
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:17 pm



Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 12):
If you have your images screened by a trainee, you are informed and are encouraged to appeal if you disagree with rejections or, less likely, acceptances

 rotfl   rotfl 

I remember these e-mails, and indeed also with the acceptance e-mails there was a kind of apology because it had been accepted by a screener-in-training. But I have never been so unpolite to appeal an accepted shot  Smile

I wish the new screeners best of luck!

Best regards,

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:17 pm

If you guys keep decreasing the queue length with the same supersonic speed as you do right now; there won't be anything to screen left  Smile

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:39 am



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 20):
C'mon, he was only kidding, Gary.

And I knew he was too  snaggletooth  but I do need a new spare screen so I will apply  duck 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:49 am

Hello

Quoting Apgphoto (Reply 24):
I do need a new spare screen so I will apply

Well, haven't seen the mail yet!

Regards

Gary
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:49 pm



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 20):
C'mon, he was only kidding, Gary.

It's the dryness of the answer and the Regards bit that makes it funny
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:20 pm



Quoting PictureThis (Reply 26):

Scottish wit is well known for being pretty dry!  Wink .....and I seem to recall a certain Mr Dopson was an a.net screener in a previous life!

Good to see you back on a.net again Paul! Any chance of getting all your previous a.net shots resurrected?

Cheers,

Martin.
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:25 pm

Tim,

I am a little Curious !

You wrote : "a monitor will be supplied to you to be used for screening."

Wich monitor will that be ??

Thx,greetings Johan Knijn
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:09 am



Quoting Granite (Reply 25):
Well, haven't seen the mail yet!

Don't want to appear too keen, still plenty of time left to apply and I can let those that want to sharpen their knives/axes etc.  duck 

Martin, sorry only my shot for fun low level stuff or some toe in the water work shots.
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:02 pm

Hello

Quoting Lumix (Reply 27):
Good to see you back on a.net again Paul! Any chance of getting all your previous a.net shots resurrected

Yes, but only the good ones this time around  footinmouth 

Regards

Gary
 
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:16 pm



Quoting JK (Reply 28):
Wich monitor will that be ??

it's a dell 22" widescreen

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:43 pm



Quoting Granite (Reply 30):
Yes, but only the good ones this time around

Good ones? I don't remember them  Big grin
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:55 am

just a little bump to make sure people are seeing this

Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:09 am



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 33):
just a little bump to make sure people are seeing this



Quoting Forum Rules:
k. Do not 'bump' threads back to the top to elicit a response. Where this occurs the entire thread will be deleted.

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:28 pm

Ah, but Tim didn't bump the thread to "elicit a response". He only did it to "make sure people are seeing it". Case dismissed.  Big grin
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:54 pm



Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 35):
Ah, but Tim didn't bump the thread to "elicit a response". He only did it to "make sure people are seeing it". Case dismissed. Big grin

LOL
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:19 am



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 31):
it's a dell 22" widescreen

Can I ask you a question? Why does it have to be a dell 22" widescreen? Forgive me for being naive
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:53 am



Quoting Scotland1979 (Reply 37):
Why does it have to be a dell 22" widescreen?

Indeed - ya'll should be supplied with iMacs!  Smile
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:58 am



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 38):
iMacs

??? - Sorry, I guess I am lost again
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:31 am



Quoting Scotland1979 (Reply 39):

Apple iMac, as in...

Big version: Width: 550 Height: 368 File size: 23kb
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:37 am



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 40):

Thanks! It looks like we are in space (Star Wars) as colours as this iMac
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:24 pm



Quoting Scotland1979 (Reply 37):
Can I ask you a question? Why does it have to be a dell 22" widescreen? Forgive me for being naive

The sole purpose is for uniformity between all screeners. I think that is the main reason. I may be wrong.

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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:09 pm

Hi All

We have selected 2 new screeners out of the application we've gotten so far.

Due to the time involved in training we are only adding 2 people now. We are most likely adding 2 more people in 1-2 months from the appliactions we've gotten

Thanks
Tim
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:03 am



Quoting TimdeGroot (Thread starter):
Deadline for applications is august 31st.

 Confused  Confused  Confused
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RE: Looking For New Screeners

Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:55 am

We're still accepting applications, but we've decided to add 2 people immediately because of the training involved. Juts a bit of fasttracking. After the deadline ends we will be selecting more people so please keep the applications coming in!

Tim
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