withak
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Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:23 pm

I'm having trouble leveling this picture.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/WithaK_01/20080224_VHLHN_1_e1.jpg
I've realised that I have two conflicting levels in this shot. One being the background and the other being the winch cable. To level one makes the other worse. Any opinions on which one should I use?

Kris
 
whappeh
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:44 pm

I always level the ground.
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:37 pm

One of the few pictures to feature a plumb-bob, the hoisted crewman, and it isn't level?!?!?

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redfox
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:38 pm

Consider the trees and bushes, do they look right?

I would suggest using the average vertical growth of the bushes, perhaps CCW rotation approx 0.5 degree.
 
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:42 pm

If you level the winch cable, the shot looks very unlevel. If you level the ground, the winch cable looks somewhat crooked, but, IMHO, not enough to detract (and certainly less so than having unlevel ground).

Unless you know for sure the ground slopes here, I'd be inclined to use it to level the shot. Like this (cropped too tightly after rotating):
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:54 pm



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
If you level the winch cable, the shot looks very unlevel. If you level the ground, the winch cable looks somewhat crooked, but, IMHO, not enough to detract (and certainly less so than having unlevel ground).

Unless you know for sure the ground slopes here, I'd be inclined to use it to level the shot. Like this (cropped too tightly after rotating):

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withak
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:55 pm



Quoting F4wso (Reply 2):

My first thought was even gravity is working against me.

Quoting Whappeh (Reply 1):



Quoting Redfox (Reply 3):



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):

Thanks for the advice. In the end I have to agree with you all and have leveled using the ground and it does look a lot better. It guess it would be stupid for me to argue that the ground is swinging rather than the guy on the end of the winch.

Kris
 
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scbriml
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RE: Leveling Help

Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:23 pm



Quoting F4wso (Reply 2):
One of the few pictures to feature a plumb-bob, the hoisted crewman, and it isn't level?!?!?

The only problem is, it's very easy for the guy on the end of the winch line to be swinging around (even if the helicopter's in a steady hover).
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RE: Leveling Help

Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:42 am

I think the shot that is leveled with the ground looks way better than the original.

Hope it makes it, it's a great shot!

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