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Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:27 pm

Hi everybody,

the "Pre- Screen Thread No. 3" was getting a little slow and already 152 replies.

So here is the new one.

If you want to check out the old one: here is the link to it:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...on_photography/read.main/317041/1/


Keep the pictures coming, queue is down to about 2 days maximum (2000 pics).  thumbsup 

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:35 pm



Quoting WILCO737 (Thread starter):
Keep the pictures coming, queue is down to about 2 days maximum (2000 pics).

that's great!!! so i'll start:

what about this shot:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/jetfreak_d_annj.jpg

Thanks in advance,

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:46 pm

Hi,
IMO, the bottom of the aircraft is a bit dark (but i'm not sure of this). Otherwise everthing looks fine to me.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:02 pm

for me it looks soft/blurry
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:26 pm

What about this one (posted it at the end of thread #3)?  Smile

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/lx343cn1.jpg


I have an identical shot where focus is on the winglet instead of the window frame-- do you think that one would be better?

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:31 pm



Quoting Staff (Reply 4):
I have an identical shot where focus is on the winglet instead of the window frame-- do you think that one would be better?

Personally I would say: set the focus to the winglet instead of the window. But I am no pro, it is just my personal impression.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:25 pm



Quoting Jetfreak (Reply 1):

As said above, bottom looks a bit dark. Should be salvageable though.

Quoting Staff (Reply 4):
What about this one (posted it at the end of thread #3)?

Personally, I love it. But post the other one with the focus on the winglet so that we may compare.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:41 pm

Okay, here's the alternative one, with focus put on the winglet instead of the window frame.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6340/lx343cn1altwt7.jpg


What do you think?
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:28 pm

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:31 pm

How about these two? Any chance of getting through?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_2413.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_2342.jpg

[Edited 2008-09-07 11:32:29]
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:12 am

Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:30 am

Will this one make it or will I see a motive rejection for the clipped tail?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2837307501_76e8b097c8_b.jpg
*post edited because picture didn't fit*

[Edited 2008-09-07 17:32:22]
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:55 am



Quoting Staff (Reply 7):
Okay, here's the alternative one, with focus put on the winglet instead of the window frame.

Much better. I say upload, but it's risky either way.

Quoting JonasJ (Reply 9):
How about these two? Any chance of getting through?

First one is a bit grainy, second is blurry. Don't think so, sorry.

Quoting UnitedJumboJet (Reply 11):
*post edited because picture didn't fit*

Yes, the clipped tail is definitely a rejection. Sorry!

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:06 am

I'm not sure about motive, the way over-blown background, or the dead bugs all over the place (I already cloned the bigger ones off the propeller cap...hope that's not forbidden), but I like this one and would like opinions:

http://www.jameswashere.net/temp/forums/DSC_4045_candidate.jpg

In addition to normal pre-screening opinions on this one, are potentially identifiable faces (no opportunity to ask for permission) acceptable?

http://www.jameswashere.net/temp/forums/DSC_4697_candidate.jpg
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:00 pm

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/deaphen/IMG_0291.jpg

hows this?
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:42 pm



Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 13):
In addition to normal pre-screening opinions on this one, are potentially identifiable faces (no opportunity to ask for permission) acceptable?

Hmm... I'd say that OK for uploading, but don't know if you will get something in the likes of a BadPeople rejection.

Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 13):
(I already cloned the bigger ones off the propeller cap...hope that's not forbidden)

No, just don't tell anyone  Wink (assuming you made it virtually impossible to discover it).




My turn. I'm having a hard time deciding which of the 2 shots below I should upload. Both will give me a double-rejection.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...4/AirKas1/ZD984_GRQ_08-09-08kj.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...rKas1/ZD984_GRQ_08-09-08kj---2.jpg

Any opinions welcome!
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:42 am

How does this one fare? I'm guessing not too well, but I guess I'll find out.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:47 am



Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 15):
I'm having a hard time deciding which of the 2 shots below I should upload. Both will give me a double-rejection.

IMHO, the second one is an awful crop. I like the first one, but I'd prefer it at 3:2 rather than 4:3.

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 16):
I'm guessing not too well,

you're guessing right.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:45 am



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 10):

I like the first one although it could maybe use a tiny bit more contrast, but I don't think the second has the quality and might also get a distance rejection.

Airkas, your first looks great. Go with that one.
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:31 am

Anyone like my pictures?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27459133@N04/

[Edited 2008-09-10 02:32:32]
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:41 pm



Quoting Deaphen (Reply 14):

should get accepted

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:20 pm



Quoting 772LR (Reply 19):

Um, this is a pre-screening thread, not show and tell. If you have specific shot you'd like an opinion on, post it.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:51 pm



Quoting Deaphen (Reply 14):


hows this?

Looks like it could use some CW rotation.
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:57 pm

how are these?
Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 720 File size: 567kb
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 599kb


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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:53 pm



Quoting Flamedude707 (Reply 23):
how are these?

You've got jaggies, especially on the stripes, and the saturation looks a little too high (just my opinion). They're also fairly common scenes, so they're likely to get very close scrutiny.
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:44 am



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 10):
Would any of these stand a remote chance? I quite like them all however they're most likely not up to the standards here.

I tried to respond to your PM, but apparently the most basic membership level doesn't allow that. To my eyes, the edit you shared looks great. I hope it makes it.
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:29 am

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:26 am



Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 13):
In addition to normal pre-screening opinions on this one, are potentially identifiable faces (no opportunity to ask for permission) acceptable?

Don't think you will get a people rejection, crew like pilots etc are OK.
But it's also a bit soft around the reg and titles and some jaggies which might be worse with additional sharpening.
But I do like the shot  Smile

Edit: Reference to wrong post

[Edited 2008-09-11 04:31:11]
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:33 pm

honest opinions please, ive got a bunch more like this.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:47 pm



Quoting UnitedJumboJet (Reply 11):
Will this one make it or will I see a motive rejection for the clipped tail?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/...b.jpg

Motive, and it's unlevel.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:52 am



Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 18):
the first one although it could maybe use a tiny bit more contrast, but I don't think the second has the quality and might also get a distance rejection.



Quoting Iamlucky13 (Reply 25):
To my eyes, the edit you shared looks great. I hope it makes it.

Thanks for your help, in the end I submitted this edited version of the photograph.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22682700@N02/2847333244/sizes/o/

By the way, this is probably a very silly question however is there a link explaining the manipulation rules regarding editing photographs? I have searched but can't find anything mentioning what kind of editing is and isn't allowed, which is making me wonder if my editing will be acceptable and within the rules.

Many thanks,

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:01 pm

Hi!

Actually, a post-screening: this one was rejected for colour only:
http://sokolniki.biz/20080911_N39343-SFO-2008-08-30-DSC_8466.jpg

I am still trying to learn to see colour casts: any advice on which colour is off?
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:21 pm



Quoting SFO2SVO (Reply 31):
I am still trying to learn to see colour casts: any advice on which colour is off?

Very slight green cast.

Be careful about uploading again though. This may have gotten rejected ONLY for Color, but it is quite soft, especially up front. I may also be inclined to recommend you move the aircraft up EVER so slightly in the frame.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:24 am



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 30):
By the way, this is probably a very silly question however is there a link explaining the manipulation rules regarding editing photographs? I have searched but can't find anything mentioning what kind of editing is and isn't allowed, which is making me wonder if my editing will be acceptable and within the rules.

Dave,

Have you already seen this? http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ation_photography/read.main/176590

This thread is referenced under the 'editing' rejection reason and contains a description of what manipulations are/are not allowed.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:59 am



Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 16):

To quote your reply to another member's shot in reply 29:

Motive, and it's unlevel.

Zero chance. What are you trying to show here?

I have noticed you like to ping in on these threads and comment on other folk's shots. Don't you find your comments hypocritical?

And, out of curiosity, do you have any shots in the database? Make sure you have YOUR bases covered before criticizing someone else's work.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:22 am



Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 16):
How does this one fare? I'm guessing not too well, but I guess I'll find out.

It looks like a very quick opportunistic snapshot; nothing more.
 
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:28 pm



Quoting Mjgbtv (Reply 33):
Dave,

Have you already seen this? http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ation_photography/read.main/176590

This thread is referenced under the 'editing' rejection reason and contains a description of what manipulations are/are not allowed.

Marty

Hey Marty, thanks for the link, that was exactly what I was looking for. I believe my photo's have been edited within the rules. Phew! I just had two photos accepted on another site (including the one above) so fingers crossed I can get it on this site. If so, it'll be my first photo here  Smile Thanks again Marty,

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:40 pm

Hi, everyone!

I'm back for more pre-screening!

I feel I should take advantage of the short queue and try to get some more shots uploaded.

I'm unsure about these because of their quality and some other issues. Help would be greatly appreciated.

Royal Air Maroc - how is the motive? Is sharpness ok? Anything else?
Big version: Width: 1280 Height: 853 File size: 841kb


US Airways - Is the quality sufficient? Too sharp? Anything else?
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 528kb


American Airlines - I know this is backlit but I decided to try it anyway since it's an uncommon motive for JFK. Anything else wrong?
Big version: Width: 1200 Height: 800 File size: 689kb


Air India - Is the motive ok? I tried to include all of the left MLG but had to cut off the engine. If I crop before th engine I cut off the airline name. Any tips?
Big version: Width: 1280 Height: 853 File size: 825kb


Thanks a ton!

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:57 pm

Hey guys,

what do think about this two shots?





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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:16 pm



Quoting Neophyte (Reply 38):
what do think about this two shots?

Air Berlin tail might be a bit too sharp.

Condor might be a bit oversharpened on the fuselage titles at the front and at the tail.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:58 pm



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 37):

#1 crop closer to the left wing

#2 crop closer to the right wing

That's just from the perviews, can't say anything else, as I am on a crap screen.
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:29 am



Quoting TransIsland (Reply 40):
#1 crop closer to the left wing

#2 crop closer to the right wing

The reason I cropped like I did was to make the aircraft more centered. I figured making it look centered would take preference over actually cropping closer. What do others think?

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:59 am



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 37):
I'm unsure about these because of their quality and some other issues. Help would be greatly appreciated

Hi TIS,

Royal Air Maroc - The red line on the rudder and the stripes around the rear door look a bit jagged. I see your point on the cropping. You might even want to move the plane even farther to the right. In my (limited, I admit) experience with A.net centering is critical.

US Airways - Looks a bit jagged - the flag on the tail, the leading edge of the starboard wing and the stripe on the wing root.

American Airlines - I don't know about the lighting, but I like the shot for all the details that you can see as well as the reflections.

Air India - The motive on this one does not grab me. For one thing, I find myself wishing you showed the whole engine. The upper door also looks quite jagged.

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:38 pm

What about this Typhoon shot?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_0921-Edit.jpg

Regards

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:01 pm

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:31 pm

OK, Next try:
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:42 pm



Quoting McG1967 (Reply 43):
What about this Typhoon shot?

I personally would prefer the shot if the front portion of the fuselage were in focus. A fantastic shot nonetheless!

Quoting Othic (Reply 44):

Haven't you already posted these in a previous thread and got help with them? Even so, I think the first two aren't up to standard due to the overexposed sky "bleeding" into the aircraft.

Quoting UltimateDelta (Reply 45):

If that is your final edit, there's no chance. Re-size to 1024x683 and it should make a difference. An impressive lineup!

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:47 pm



Quoting TupolevTu154 (Reply 46):
If that is your final edit, there's no chance. Re-size to 1024x683 and it should make a difference. An impressive lineup!

Will do. I finally figured out how to in my editor. Thanks!
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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:39 pm

Here's a differently cropped version of the Air India shot. Is this better? Is either one acceptable? Or should I forget this shot?
Big version: Width: 1280 Height: 853 File size: 899kb


Any feedback on the other shots from some screeners? Thanks a ton!

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RE: Pre- Screening Thread No. 4

Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:42 pm

Thanks for your help TIS, looks better now?





Cheers

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