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Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:53 pm

Has anyone experimented with or had experience with selling your plane pictures thru stock photo agencies? One in particular that I have looked at is called Alamy. They have a lot of aviation photos and the prices are pretty high. Although for contributors photos get screened and can get rejected for a number of reasons many of which are similar to here, I still see many of their photos don't measure up to what is displayed here. Things like level, cropping, centering, planes too far in the distance, etc. I wonder how lucrative the sales potential is (for a good photo) over there.

Then there are "micro-stock" sites where photographers get commissions of like 19 to 21 cents per sale - but surprisingly, I've heard of people making decent money at it. How, I don't know!

Airliners.net is still the way to go if you want to display your aviation images, but I'd like to grab a little more of the sales market.

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:18 pm

Bruce,

ever looked at ATI? It might be what you are looking for..........

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:25 pm

What is ATI?

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:29 pm

Ever heard of:
AirTeamImages?

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:44 pm

Oh....now I get it. But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales? Do people really make anything through ATI?
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:05 pm



Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
Do people really make anything through ATI?

Yes. And ATI is pretty well known among many large publishing houses both here and in Europe. Derek does a great job with the team!
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:42 pm

I believe most stock / microstock do not accept images with recognizeable trademarks (such as airline names). Most a.net images do have them.
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:32 pm



Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
Do people really make anything through ATI?

Derek is able to make a living off it, and I guess the UK is not the cheapest place for housing either - makes sense, you need a stable roof with all that rain  Wink

Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales

Depends, there is associate and full membership. The latter do sell through ati only. Never been a problem for me, there's hardly any good sales coming via a.net anymore, mostly people looking for freebies.

Sales are good.

Depends on what you shoot and how if you are egliable, ati does not want members to take each others business because of for example similar spotting places. There's no point in having five photographers from New York, or Sydney, you surely get what I mean.
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:22 pm



Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
One in particular that I have looked at is called Alamy. They have a lot of aviation photos and the prices are pretty high.

Don't take the prices displayed on Alamy's website as gospel. They give some pretty hefty discounts to regular clients.

Quoting Bruce (Thread starter):
Although for contributors photos get screened and can get rejected for a number of reasons many of which are similar to here, I still see many of their photos don't measure up to what is displayed here. Things like level, cropping, centering, planes too far in the distance, etc.

For print publication t's not a good idea to crop tight a.net style. Tight crops severely constrain the layout options open to the page designer. A tight 3:2 nose-to-tail crop isn't much use when you have to fit a photo in a squarish space.
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:24 pm

So perhaps if I offer any of my a.net photos on a stock site I'll obviously have to re-edit them (because the ones I save that are on here are downsized to only 1024px and 2mb for the photoshop file) and when I re-edit them I should crop wider than what would be acceptable here? I can understand that.

How about one called "stock connection"? There seems to be a bunch of aviation photos on there but nothing on their site about requirements. Some of their photos do have airline logos so i assume they're for editorial use.

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:26 am

In any case, for Alamy you will need to upsize your images to 48MB uncompressed (equivalent to around 5100 pixels length for a 3:2 photo) so assuming you're using the usual 8-12MP camera you can't afford to crop too much before you upsize.

I don't know anything about Stock Connection. Hadn't heard of them before actually.
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:06 pm



Quoting INNflight (Reply 7):
Quoting Bruce (Reply 4):
But they require that you not sell images anywhere else, right? Not even through the a.net "contact photographer" link. How are their sales

Depends, there is associate and full membership. The latter do sell through ati only. Never been a problem for me, there's hardly any good sales coming via a.net anymore, mostly people looking for freebies.

So what is the difference between associate member and full member, besides being able to sell elsewhere? How does payment work? Does ATI pay you right away when one of your photos is sold?

I'm interested in finding out exactly how it works, I'm thinking of trying to become a member.

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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:36 pm



Quoting Jspitfire (Reply 11):
So what is the difference between associate member and full member, besides being able to sell elsewhere? How does payment work? Does ATI pay you right away when one of your photos is sold?

A few other differences. Full members get priority with sales when possible, full members get press creds for shows or events, etc.

Payment is quarterly.
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RE: Selling Photos - Aviation Stock

Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:31 am



Quoting INNflight (Reply 12):
full members get press creds

Do get that w/o being a full member!

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