robertuk22
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Help Needed For Sharpening Pictures

Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:37 pm

Lately ive been having real problems trying to sharpen my pictures

People say use 150 at 0.3 on photoshop and i do but see no effects

i then submit my photos and they get rejected for being soft

and if i play about with it i make them to jaggered or oversharpened

can someone please help me out

Here is a llink to a selection of my photos i edited myself
i have all the originals if someone can really give me some help on how to edit my pictures from start to finish i just dont seem to get it and i love doing it?

Thank you

http://spotting.biagrouponline.co.uk...iewtopic.php?f=14&t=137&p=633#p633

Rob
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Stealthz
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RE: Help Needed For Sharpening Pictures

Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:08 am

Rob,

I had a play with the only one of the photos in your link that, with all due respect, I felt worthy of an attempt.
I pretty much used Fergul McClean's process as linked on the Photo Upload page-
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/PsProc.pdf

This will only give you a guide as I was working on your already processed image so results were not great.
http://www.pbase.com/chrisg/image/107158315/original.jpg

If you would like me to have a go at the original please contact me via my profile.

For the others, I don't understand your composition or cropping, chopping off small parts of an aircraft rarely works.. noses almost never.

Cheers

Chris
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
 
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dlednicer
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RE: Help Needed For Sharpening Pictures

Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:50 am

Soft doesn't necessarily mean "not sharpened enough". It can also mean that you have low contrast edges or areas of weak color. I use the burn tool to work on these areas. Set it to at 5 or 10% and work the areas that fit this criteria. I almost always burn canopies - I set the burn tool on Shadows and pass the tool over the canopy a bit to eliminate glare, which could be considered softness.

On this shot I lassoed the tail and burned the blue areas and I burned the plexiglass on the nose:

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On this one I burned the left wing, particularly near the tip, including the insignia:

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Photo © David Lednicer



On this one, I burned the "soft" areas on the top of the fuselage:

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Photo © David Lednicer



On this one, I burned the canopy and the parts of the top of the glider that are visible:

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Photo © David Lednicer



Regarding sharpening, here are some helpful threads:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...tion_photography/read.main/246391/
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...tion_photography/read.main/219246/
 
robertuk22
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RE: Help Needed For Sharpening Pictures

Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:36 am

Thank you for your reply's

Im gonna take all your helpful info on board and see how i get on

Thanks again
Rob
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RE: Help Needed For Sharpening Pictures

Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:35 am

Just a thought, but you mentioned that when you used 150% 0.3 you saw no effect. Perhaps you need to downsize the jpeg first as the sharpening settings will have a greater effect then.

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