Apache
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Photo Acceptance - Pre/Post Screening (Apache)

Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:18 pm

Hi all,

at first I'd like to ask you for help to solve my long time dilemma related to shot leveling. I just got shot below rejected - reject reason: level.
http://www.volny.cz/paca/IMG_8396.jpg

I did appeal as RWY is not even close to be leveled in this part and shot was leveled in relation to vertical poles of a fence in the background and other objects outside of crop. Even if I meant this in appeal reason shot was rejected again. So my question is should I level my shots to objects I know they are leveled or to distort reality to get shot accepted?


At second I have another shot rejected recently - reject reason: quality, contrast, dirty.
http://www.volny.cz/paca/IMG_9673c.jpg

How should I improve contrast? Does the shot need more contrast or less? And I really can’t find where it is dirty.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.


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Stil
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre/Post Screening (Apache)

Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:35 pm

Hi, Pavel.

As for the first picture, I've the feeling the pictures not only needs to be levelled, but it needs to seem levelled as well. I don't rely on fence poles as a level indicator unless it became obvious. When there's no line to use as a reference, I look at the picture from a couple of steps behind and try to see it it seems levelled or not. Yours seems in need of some CW rotation, no matter it's levelled or not.
Just my humble opinion.

As for the second one, it looks slightly bright, as if shadow highlight were over applied; but I completely fail to see any dirt or any contrast issue

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Apache
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre/Post Screening (Apache)

Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:06 pm

Hello Stil

As for the first one that’s the dilemma I do have. As I wrote before I did check level of the shot not only by fence poles but also by other objects outside of crop. Truth is that front edge of the RWY goes down from right to left. But it just because the place where shot was taken is the circular end of the RWY where planes perform 180° turn after/before backtracking. So I can rotate it CW but then shot will be not “really” leveled. Sad

As for second one no shadow highlighting was applied, the belly of a/c is lightened by straight sunlight reflected by almost white surface of RWY’s concrete.

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oly720man
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre/Post Screening (Apache)

Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:36 pm

This is rotated 0.5CW using the top line of the fence in the background as horizontal.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/oly720man/oe-gbb.jpg
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre/Post Screening (Apache)

Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:37 pm



Quoting Apache (Thread starter):
I just got shot below rejected - reject reason: level.

Ouch. That's a tough one. It is pretty level, at most it needs 0.1 degree CW rotation. You might even want to appeal this one if you feel nothing else is wrong with it. Screeners don't always get the level right. I've appealed level rejections and won. Just note in your appeal that the runway is within 0.1 degree of being level.

Quoting Apache (Thread starter):

At second I have another shot rejected recently - reject reason: quality, contrast, dirty.

I also fail to see the dirty, but the contrast is a bit off, and the quality isn't good enough to appeal. To fix the contrast boost it a little at the same time bring down the exposure. I think you'll see it looks better. As for the quality, look at the border between the fuselage and the sky, and around the main gear, looks pretty bad, maybe as the result of over-sharpening.

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