FilAmAirlines
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Plane Spotting

Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:36 pm

Since I rarely travel on plane (maybe 2 roundtrips/year), I have many questions
1) Is there any sports where I can get a.net acceptable pics of planes inside the ORD, ATL, or MSP terminals? (I dislike DTW's NW/DL WorldGateway b/c of dots on the windows)
2) My closest airport is MBS are there any decent spots where I can take plane photos (Commercial, Cargo, w/e)
3) Would you recommend a 'daytrip' within ORD, MSP, ATL just to plane spot and take aircraft pics? (Currently FNT is only under 220 USD r/t for same day return on days I want to go)
4) Do you think I should find a new camera for plane spotting? (My current camera is a Sony DSC-W80)
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koryo
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:01 am

1) ORD- http://www.spotterswiki.com/index.php?title=ORD

MSP- http://www.spotterswiki.com/index.php?title=MSP

ATL- http://www.spotterswiki.com/index.php?title=ATL


2) For spotting at MBS try driving around the airport If you find a place that looks for spotting well stop and spot, but remember, if Police tell to leave, leave and find another spot.

3) Day trip sounds a little too short to enjoy the airport for spotting why not take a three or 2 day trip instead?

4) Get a new one a point and shoot won't get much if any photos onto the database.

Cheers,

Koryo

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FilAmAirlines
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:00 am



Quoting Koryo (Reply 1):

For 3, I can't do 2 or 3 day trips b/c according to hotel policies, I can't stay in a hotel by myself (under 18)
4. Do you know any cameras that are a bargain that I can get pics on a.net?
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koryo
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:12 am



Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 2):
For 3, I can't do 2 or 3 day trips b/c according to hotel policies,

According to Hilton O'hare at Hilton.com you can,

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FilAmAirlines
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:19 am

Can anybody recommend a camera? I'm looking for a camera that is a bargain and can get me SOME pictures at a.net
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:15 am

Quoting Koryo (Reply 1):
4) Get a new one a point and shoot won't get much if any photos onto the database.

Not necessarily true. It might be a little more difficult, but it is certainly possible to get photos on airliners.net with a decent point and shoot camera.

Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 2):
4. Do you know any cameras that are a bargain that I can get pics on a.net?



Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 4):
Can anybody recommend a camera? I'm looking for a camera that is a bargain and can get me SOME pictures at a.net

First of all, you should not want a new camera for the sole purpose of uploading photos here. It should be more about having fun and enjoying a hobby. The trick to making high quality photos is not about having high-end equipment, but knowing how to take a decent photograph and how to properly post-process the image.

I'm not familiar with your camera, someone else might know it's limitations but if you know your camera, how to use it to get the most out of your pictures, and find some good locations you might be able to get some photos uploaded here with what you have already. Don't rush to spend money just for this site. For any chance at getting shots on this website, you must first understand what this site is looking for in a photograph and how to meet the criteria. You could have the most top-of-the-line gear, but without a knowledge of airliners.net's strict criteria, you wont have any luck.

If you are interested in learning the world of the DSLR, the Canon Rebel series is excellent for starters. If you can get a hold of one, I recommend the Rebel 400D(Xti). It's a couple years old so it might be hard to find a new one, but the price by now aught to be very reasonable. But beware, when you enter the world of the DSLR, quality (expensive) glass is most important.

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FilAmAirlines
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:26 am



Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 4):
Can anybody recommend a camera? I'm looking for a camera that is a bargain and can get me SOME pictures at a.net

First of all, you should not want a new camera for the sole purpose of uploading photos here. It should be more about having fun and enjoying a hobby. The trick to making high quality photos is not about having high-end equipment, but knowing how to take a decent photograph and how to properly post-process the image.

I'm not familiar with your camera, someone else might know it's limitations but if you know your camera, how to use it to get the most out of your pictures, and find some good locations you might be able to get some photos uploaded here with what you have already. Don't rush to spend money just for this site. For any chance at getting shots on this website, you must first understand what this site is looking for in a photograph and how to meet the criteria. You could have the most top-of-the-line gear, but without a knowledge of airliners.net's strict criteria, you wont have any luck.

If you are interested in learning the world of the DSLR, the Canon Rebel series is excellent for starters. If you can get a hold of one, I recommend the Rebel 400D(Xti). It's a couple years old so it might be hard to find a new one, but the price by now aught to be very reasonable. But beware, when you enter the world of the DSLR, quality (expensive) glass is most important.

Honestly, I want to get into plane spotting. I've always wanted to take photos on planes that I see. It's just I want to share it with others. IMO, having my photo on a.net is an honor. Since I do enjoy civil aviation in general.
Here's a link to the manual of the camera I primarily would use
http://www.hampshire.edu/mediasvcs/files/DSCW80.pdf
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:45 am



Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
First of all, you should not want a new camera for the sole purpose of uploading photos here. It should be more about having fun and enjoying a hobby. The trick to making high quality photos is not about having high-end equipment, but knowing how to take a decent photograph and how to properly post-process the image.

Very true. A decent camera and lens will not get you photos on here if you don't know about photography and can't take decent pictures. Practice, practice, practice..... Get used to using different shutter speeds/apertures and their effects, the effects of the weather (clouds/sun), when's the best time to take photos, to be self critical, to recognise why a photo isn't the highest quality. And these days, with digital, there's no excuse for not taking lots of photos. And then there's the post-processing. Though it is possible to get a picture straight from the camera onto the site (after resizing), it is usually necessary to do some processing (sharpening, levelling, colour balance, contrast).

If you do wish to upload there is myaviation.net, the no screening version of a.net which also has many visitors.

Your camera may, at best, be ok for photos of small aircraft when you're stood next to them and they're static. It really won't have the quality for anything else. Not many uploads here are with non-DSLR cameras and I doubt if any of them are from the pocket sized cameras. The lens is probably the most important factor in what makes the image and the small lenses and small CCDs on small cameras don't produce the high quality images expected here.
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:22 pm

If you come to MSP, send me an email. The parking garages are photographer/spotter friendly and there are a few other spots around the field that are good vantage points. My schedule is flexible at the moment so I am glad to show visitors around.

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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:14 pm



Quoting Oly720man (Reply 7):
Not many uploads here are with non-DSLR cameras and I doubt if any of them are from the pocket sized cameras.

I did a search for "Powershot" (Canon compacts) and it turned up quite a lot of images. I think it is possible to get photos accepted on a regular basis using a point-and-shoot. This said, I agree you have to know your camera's limitations, and editing on PC is at least as important for a.net as shooting the photo itself. Moreover, not all compact cameras are equally good and although I've never used the Sony W80 I doubt whether it is among the good ones (for a.net, that is).

FilAmAirlines I suggest you look for a Canon with at least a x10 optical zoom (you need this sort of range for aviation photography). BUT in the meantime, don't stop shooting with what you've got.
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RE: Plane Spotting

Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:47 pm



Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 9):

Every one of my 160 acceptances (including pics from late March 2009) have been taken with a Canon Powershot S2 IS I got over 3 years ago- 5MP, 12x zoom, basically an advanced point-and-shoot.

I had the camera for about 6 months before I got my first acceptance, and the game-changer for me DEFINITELY was learning how to post-process and edit my photos properly. I would highly recommend that camera (or it's current generation brother, the SX IS, which is 10MP and 20x zoom, which I wouldn't mind having myself!).
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RE: Plane Spotting

Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:51 am

I do use the exact same camera, and it's inadequate for a.net. If you haven't noticed it is pretty grainy and thepics it takes are on the soft side. It also has a tendency to underexpose in bright light unless using spot metering.

My advice so far: Use program auto settings. Set the ISO to 100, color to Vivid, and use manual white balance. Spot meter if possible.

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